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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Old Cowboy, Jan 31, 2012.

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  1. Old Cowboy

    Old Cowboy Active Member

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    I've heard that the targets are harder to break when it's cold. Is that true, and WHY would that be?

    John C. Saubak
     
  2. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    If you think cold ones are tough, you should try some cryo'ed.
     
  3. Pull Bang

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    Just put the shot ON TARGET and it will break. I have never noticed any difference in how the targets breaks, >80 degrees, <32 degrees.


    Frank
     
  4. Pull Bang

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    Like I said "PUT THE SHOT ON TARGET!". I use 1 ounce of #8's year round.


    Frank
     
  5. Jon Reitz

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    Uh, yeah, what Roger said...
     
  6. Chugiakshooter

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    -15 sure makes them hard !!!
     
  7. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    Yea but, doesn't the shot get harder also? So it's a wash. LOL
     
  8. Calkidd

    Calkidd Well-Known Member

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    I crush up a few pills of Viagra and put in the shot bottle before loading. That way the shot is harder than the target....

    Bryan
     
  9. Johnny

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    Not true from my experience.
     
  10. senior smoke

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    Here in Wisconsin, winters can get very cold at times. Targets when left outside can get real hard. When shooting in this area in very cold weather, I have seen targets that were actually hit and continued to fly off course unbroken.

    Most shooters I know start using hard 7 1/2 shot for all events in the winter events in this area, especially when trap handicap is shot. One trick us old timers do is to put our shells on top of the clubs radiators to keep them warm instead of keeping them in a shooting bag.

    The old joke when a new shooter asked us, what size shot do you use in winter? Some of us would say 9's, 4's and 5's.
    Steve Balistreri
     
  11. Two Dogs

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    For 16yd. shooting I use 8 1/2 all year round.Targets get hard only when the manufacture puts in too much limestone,it's the soft targets that have all the holes in them and didn't break, not the hard ones...

    Trap is such a head game, don't get carried away with all the BS that people will tell you, no you don't need a heavier load in the winter, or goinig to a larger size shot.

    Trap is a really simple game.....lets keep it that way....
     
  12. Twinbirds

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    yep a lot of BS
     
  13. Ross

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    Would you rather get hit with a load of #4 buckshot or std. #2 or #7&1\2 birdshot at 32-35 yards??????? I've seen the same thing that SS commented on, below zero those targets are frozen and they are hard. Ross Puls
     
  14. Wildcat Lewis

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    You think they could be slippin in a rubber or metal target every now and then? They are tough son of a guns to break with a full load of bricks, let alone 7 1/2 shot!

    WL
     
  15. bigben

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    Old cowboy, cold weather [sub zero] to those in warmer climates, ARE harder to break, in my experience, 27 yd targets sometimes have a propensity of not breaking. I still have on my shelf my 2100.00 target, subzero temps, winter calcutta, 49 out of 50 straight so far, target leaves the house lock on front of target visually, squeeze the trigger, smoke rolls off the target, does a series of ungodly angles, no piece LOST! target hits a gravel drive, rolls like a donut, does not break. instead of a big payday, money is split. go to the driveway, pick up my very expensive target, 11 entry holes, 11 exit holes, exit holes are ragged with paint missing. shell, Federal Gold Medal 7 1/2 , I think # 5 copper would have been great! incinerate em!
     
  16. Two Dogs

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    11 holes...now do you really think the target was hard or frozen...or a soft target?
     
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    It's a combination of humidity and frozen targets. Targets lose their elasticity when humid and froze. Shot blows right thru them, but they break harder. You seldom if ever see "ink spots" in the winter.
     
  18. wayneo

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    You guys are killing me. No such thing as high humidity and frozen. The lower the temperature, the lower the humidity. Cold air is very dense and contains less water vapor. There is no humidity (humidity is water vapor)in frozen targets. There might be some moister (WET targets), but not water vapor.

    Cold affects the pitch and limestone powder.

    Wayne
     
  19. grntitan

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    "The lower the temperature, the lower the humidity"

    Explain White Frost then wayneo


    White frost:<br>
    White frost is a solid deposition of ice which forms directly from water vapor contained in air. White frost forms when there is a relative humidity above 90% and a temperature below –8 °C (18 °F) and it grows against the wind direction, since arriving windward air has a higher humidity than leeward air, but the wind must not be very strong in order not to damage the delicately built icy structures. These structures resemble a heavy coating of hoar frost with big and interlocking crystals, usually needle-shaped.


    So you are saying 90% humidity is low with an air temperature of 18 degrees F??
     
  20. FRedmon

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    HYGROSCOPIC

    1: readily taking up and retaining moisture

    2: Taken up and retained under some conditions of humidity and temperature -
    hygroscopic water in clay.


    Bio's love moisture..


    FRedmon
     
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