Just to let every reloader know of a great experience with Claybuster Wads. I was reloading yesterday and had dumped half a bag of wads into my bin that I load from and while loading my usual 1 oz. Lightnings, picked out a wad that did not "feel" right. Turned out it was a four petal 1 1/8 oz wad mixed in the bag. This happened several more times then found a 20 ga. wad in the bag. This is the first time this has ever happened in all the years that I have been loading with their product. I contacted Claybuster and much to my surprise got a reply within 5 hours! I was not mad about this incident and just contacted them to inform them of the mixup but they could not have been nicer about the whole incident. Seems that "Big Green" and a few others could take a lesson in customer service from these great folks. I will definitely keep using their products in the future because of their attitude and the fact that I like the product line. Seems to me that they care about their customers and their product and will go out of their way to rectify a situation.
tthey are good to deal with. And, "Big Green" could give a sh*t less what we all think. I just removed a NIB Remington 870 that had bluing salts packed in the underside of the bolt. The bolt, firing pin and firing pin spring is rusted.... now I am dreading the contact that I have to make with Remington to solve this problem.
Had a similar experience with CB several years ago, very helpful. Later tried DR had a problem with funny sounding--light recoil--etc. called them, no help, in fact was essentially told if I didn't like their products to use another brand. Went back to CBs & OEMs still using them with no problems. Ross Puls
Ross, that is just unusual in my experience. Downrange and Kevin have always been extremely helpful when I have contacted them. Kevin has just been an encyclopedia of information when I have had questions. No doubt both are great products, just really surprised. Must have been a very bad day for someone?
Didreckson: From all I read here on TS only a few others have had my experience, maybe he was just having a bad day but he lost a customer anyway. Wondered if it was me or my reloader so gave some to a shooting friend to try (he knew about my "odd" loads) we use different loaders & powders, he had the same results so I just threw the rest of them away. Ross
Claybusters were out there making a quality product when we needed them. After using them for 20 years, I can't find much wrong with 'em and see no reason to experiment.
I guess I am a different breed, I tried for a long time to like claybusters, then Kevin had his contest and I won some DR. I have never gone back. I feel the DR is superior to even the federals and all others I have tried. I gave away 5000 CB. To sum it up, shooters like what works and fits well with the load they like. Some like a wad because it does not foul the barrel and some for pattern. For me the Dr has it all
Claybusters work fine once they're in the hull. I just don't like how they go through my reloader, and they seem to leave more plastic on my choke tubes.
I like Downrange, and Kevin gave me a tour of his factory, so that was cool.
Anyone ever notice the Claybuster Fig 8 wad is a little longer than the Remington Fig 8? I opened up a bag of the Claybusters and began getting wrinkled hulls and shallow crimps using STS hulls. Upon investigation, I found that Claybusters are a bit longer than the Remington Fig 8. I guess I will use the Claybusters in Federal Gold medal hulls and use them up.
I have used 10`s of thousands of CB211812`s with no issues.Changed over from Fed 12S3`s when the cost difference out weighed brand loyality ($40.00+ P/C).They feed through a Spolar with ease.Tried one case of DRF3`s when they first came out, but had way too many funny sounding shells during our winter league last winter...KS-OKIE.
KS-OKIE: I had the same experience with DR, plus soft or very light recoil, called DR to see if they had any suggestions and basically was told if I didn't like their product to use somebody else' so I went back to CBs and OEMs my problems went away. Same powder, same loader, hulls, primers, etc. only difference was wads. Even gave a bag to my shooting pardner to try he uses different brands of loader & powder, he had the same thing happen so we just threw the test of them in the dumpster. Ross Puls
I've been satisfied with Claybuster wads. I have also used DR and Dusters, they worked fine also. I have not seen much difference in plastic buildup. Claybusters are usually a little cheaper so I buy them. I wouldn't mind spending a little more if I thought I was getting a better product but haven't seen that.
Just to let everyone know, I had contacted Claybuster about the wad problems on December 5th and yesterday replacement wads came via UPS. You absolutely cannot ask for better customer service than this. To those who say they have problems with the wads, it might have something to do with the speed that you are loading. Even though I use a 9000G I still take my time with the reloading process and experience very few hang-ups in the process. There may be times when I try to go too fast and do not place the wad on the tube correctly but that is my fault....not the wad. Have not had any bad experience with CB's "popping" the crimps or anything of that nature. I stick with a 1 oz load in either STS or Gun Club casings and maybe Federal Top Guns even though the latter are steel based have had no problems. Seems that after sizing the steels in the 9000 that eliminates the problems that others have alluded to having with them. Also these are shot in two different guns, a Ljutic and a BT-99 and still no hanging problems while loading. Got off topic for a minute but just wanted to let everyone know of the great experience with Claybuster.
My ported guns have a LOT of plastic buildup wih Claybuster wads (maybe I'm the only one?)...so I tried Downrange and the problem was resolved.
I like Kevin too...he helped me a lot...hard to imagine anyone not having favorable things to say about him or Downrange. Like someone said...maybe he was having an unusually bad day or something??
Since then ...I've started loading all gauges with Downrange. I'm particularly fond of the Hybrid 8 petal wad in 12 gauge...it works in Nitros, STS, and Win HS hulls...
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