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Clay Dot loads for handicap

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  1. Lovemy99

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    I have been using Clay Dot powder for a while now for my 1oz. loads and I love it. I now want to load some 1 1/8oz. loads for handicap shooting.

    Componenets used are AA or STS hulls, AA12 wad, Win. 209 primer. Does anyone have a good load for this that will do 1200fps?

    Also, what is the opinion on 1145fps, 1 1/8oz. loads from the 23yd. line?
     
  2. goatskin

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    Clays/Clay Dot is a much better 1oz powder than a handicap powder. It starts getting pressury pretty quickly.

    If you spend some time in Alliant or Hodgdon loading databases, you'll see that when you get close to 1200fps, you are over 11000psi.

    There are better handicap powders. For RemChester hulls and WAA-12 wads, 20gn of Green Dot has busted more 100s at caps - as far back as you want to go - than all other powders, combined, I suspect.

    If you are going to load Clays/Clay Dot, make damn sure you are dropping 18.2gn and not 18.4.

    Bob
     
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    Look at either e3 ot green dot, depending upon the direction you are taking. Clays is not the powder for this load.

    WNCRob
     
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    I use ClayDot for 1 oz loads and shoot them for almost everything. When I am all the way back for games, etc. I use Unique for my Reach out and touch them loads. Mark
     
  5. oskerspap12

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    20 grs. of GD,and you'll be good to go!
     
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    ClayDot and Clays are not great powders for 1200 fps 1 1/8 loads.

    I'd suggest the Winchester Super handicap if you want to smoke em...
     
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    Green Dot!
     
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    I have loaded a few 1 1/8 Claydots at 1145 for singles. I did use a few for handicap practice and it was OK. But as others have said 1200 is a bit much for Claydot, go with Greendot in the 20.0 to 20.5 range. You will be much happier with the performance.
     
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    I have a question for you green dot users. What primers are you useing, I see most recipes call for a remington primer and they are getting hard to get. Is there a good substitute. Thanks.
     
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    I use CCI209M for my Green Dot, 1.125 loads. They work great for me.
     
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    STS hull,Cheddite primer,20.5 grs. GD,1.125 ozs.of shot.......Smoke 'em!!

    D.P.Reynolds
     
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    FWIW, I've been using International Clays in WWCF hulls for about 1235-1250 with hard 7 1/2's for handicap. Clays and claydot are not sutable IMHO for any loads of 1 1/8 over 1200 fps.
     
  13. Lovemy99

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    Thanks guys! I kind of suspected this is what I would find out.

    Does anybody shoot 1145fps, 1 1/8oz. at the middle yardages? If so, how do you like it?
     
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    99, many shoot that back to 27!
     
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    With primer substitutions the best way to know is to call or email Alliant or Hodgdon (according to the powder you are using) and ask them. They may say you should back your powder charge down a half grain.
     
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    Why do you feel the need for 1200? 1145 will work fine.
     
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    In answer to your question about 1.125 oz 1145fps Clay Dot loads at mid yardage, they work fine.

    I currently shot the same load, AA hulls, 1.125 oz, Foichi primers @ 1145 from the 23 yd line in league and they smoke them. If you feel the need for a faster load you should look to a slower powder but what you have will work just fine.

    Jack
     
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    What is really frustrating is watching Ron Alcoriza shooting 1 oz of light 8's from the 27 crushing target after target. He shoots a lot at Stockton, my local club, and is a class act all the way. He donates a boat load of time working with the kids coming up, and often wish I was one of them.
     
  19. Lovemy99

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    Thanks guys!
     
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    GREEN STS, GOLD NITROS, BLUE REMINGTON PETERS HULLS, DRXL118, 1 1/8 oz of #8's, CHEDDITE PRIMERS, 18.4 gr. of CLAYDOT I shoot this load for everything. I too was looking for a ClayDot load and e-mailed ALLIANT this is the load Ben Amonette recommended for the materials I had available. It works great at singles and when We move to the fence in leagues it works just as good as the factory Federals or Estates.

    Mark
     
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