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Clay buster fig8 wads 2 types, feedback from CB

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  1. maclellan1911

    maclellan1911 TS Member

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    Hello John,

    The CB3118-12A is our original version of the Figure 8 wad with the wad column having diamond or hex design. The CB8118-12 is the exact Figure 8 replacement with the circular design. That is the only difference in these two wads and they are interchangeable.

    Thank you for inquiring about Claybuster wads.



    Regards,





    Alan Hensley

    Product Specialist

    J-Ron, Inc.

    270.826.4662

    www.jron.com

    www.claybusterwads.com

    www.harvestermuzzleloading.com
     
  2. perazzitms

    perazzitms TS Member

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    Remington most likely held a patent or trademark on the true 'figure 8' design. They came out with the 'hex 8' to avoid infringement. Once the patent expired, they were free to copy the design, but I'm sure they are not going to toss out the old hex molds until they wear out.
     
  3. Shooting Coach

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    Yup. They said they would continue to make both of them. One is pre patent expiration model, one is a true clone. Same good wad. Same good loads.
     
  4. k-gunguy

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    In the newest load guide from Alliant,the cb3118,loads with much lower PSI, than the Fig-8 style.
    GAZ
     
  5. Shooting Coach

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    I wish my Alliant manuals would get here. I hate the PDF manual. Come on, Alliant!

    Get that new online manual up and running.
     
  6. Jim Porter

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    Probably a dumb question but what is supposed to be the design advantage or strong point to a Fig 8 wad? They have got to be good, they have been around forever. I intended to buy some at the Grand but forgot - I'm old! I have long had a feeling that the shell manufacturer has a better idea of what works in their stuff than anybody else and I have about 10,000 once fired Gun Clubs and thought I would give the Fig 8 a try. Somebody tell me why I should. This is not a troll!
     
  7. zzt

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    Jim, for all the reasons you think. It fits well in the hull with a variety of loads, crimps well, patterns beautifully, and is inexpensive. I use them and like them better than the clones. They are worth the extra $10/5000 to me.
     
  8. Jim Porter

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    ZZT Good enough for me. I am not one to skimp on wads prices. They are the lowest cost in the equasion so why not buy good ones.
     
  9. phirel

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    Shooting Coach- Send me a PM and I will see about getting you an Alliant Manual. It would be nice if I could meet you at a shoot and give you a case of manuals (ca 90)to give out at your club. I will bring a case of them to the Middletown Shoot (OH) in two weeks. A case is very heavy and shipping one might be expensive.

    Pat Ireland
     
  10. mrskeet410

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    For printed guide, from www.alliantpower.com.

    1-800-276-9337

    - Ext. 1 for Printed Guide
     
  11. mrskeet410

    mrskeet410 TS Member

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    From Jim Porter - "what is supposed to be the design advantage or strong point to a Fig 8 wad?"

    That wad came out back when Remington had real Shooting Pros that came to the shoots, were actually shooters, and were knowledgeable about the shooting sports and what was going on at Remington, and made an effort to help the shooters. This is what I was told by one of those Pros.

    But first let me preface that with this note. What they now call the TGT12 came out before the Figure 8. It was thought it would serve as both a 1 ounce and an 1 1/8 ounce load, but 1 ounce had not built much popularity at that time.

    What I was told was that the cushioning sections worked great in the factory because the cushening section would accommodate a range powder types and drops, and even 1 ounce and 1 1/8 ounce loads. I'm not sure how that worked in the factory, but it didn't work too well for reloaders. Even you added plenty of wad pressure to squash the cushening section, it just sprung back.

    Remington then came out with the Figure 8 that worked better for reloaders. Dunno if it helped at the factory.

    That said, I'll add this. A friend that was a big Remington fan always loaded Remington wads. He loaded on a single stage loader and loaded the TGT12 in everything, 1 ounce and 1 1/8 ounce, and AA, Remington Premiers, and Federal Papers and Gold Metals, that was about all the hulls available then. I never could to that, but he said the secret was using a massive amount of wad pressure. He said that massive wad pressure would squash those wads to the point they would keep some squash. He kept his wad ram set at the same depth for all his loads.
     
  12. Jim Porter

    Jim Porter Well-Known Member

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    I borrowed a 1/2 bag of Down Range clone Fig 8 wads for 1 1/8oz to try in some Gun Clubs. No matter what the outcome, they look cool!
     
  13. garagestuff

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    Jim,

    Let us know the performance outcome...I just ordered some the DR also to do the exact same thing.

    Regards
    Jim
     
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