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Chrysler shutting down GOP dealerships?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, May 27, 2009.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    World Net Daily claims that of all the dealerships Chrysler is closing, 90% contributed to the GOP for the Nov 2008 election, while only 10% contributed to the DNC.<br>
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    That's a pretty lopsided ratio. I'd be less suspicious if the ratio was 60/40 or even 70/30, but 90/10? I'm interested in an explanation of why this is so lopsided.
     
  2. Kabang

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    Could it be just a coincidence? Small Rural low volume dealers vs large high volume urban/suburban dealerships?
     
  3. GunDr

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    Kabang.....NOT!! Here a link to a little more very interesting info on those dealerships being closed down. Some of them are in the top 5% of Chrysler's sales.

    The link also identifies those individuals (Obama supporters....minority owned) who have not been shut down that are going to move into those vacanted locations.

    If you continue down the page, you can read comments from the closing dealerships and some of their employees. They all have the same thought....Socialism.
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I can see a large number of lawsuits coming down the pike.<br>
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    I don't see a congressional investigation. I think we all know the reason for that.
     
  5. Don Steele

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    Unless someone in Congress grows a pair,(besides Nancy Pelosi) and finds their backbone....I personally doubt we'll see ANYBODY step up and investigate any of this.
     
  6. fri

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    Brian,
    I have always enjoyed your postings and this one is simply unbeleavible. But it is happening to America Now right this very minute. Taking from those who have and giving to those who don't. When Obama said in his campain "It is now time to fundamentally change how America works" The hair on the back if my neck stood up,they all cheered. Just to make sure those who may not have been able to understand exactly what he met Obama went looking for Joe The Plumber. The media constantly aired his "Obama Campain Message" late in the race. It was enough to win. There is a conservative family owned automobile dealership here slated for the G.M. axe. They are profitable and sell a lot of G.M. products.... I bet this same rationale for the closing of the G.M. dealers was used.They were bewildered as to why they are being close down. I just foreworded the link to them. I hope they fight.

    Fritz
     
  7. dverna

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    The dealers cannot fight.

    Once in bankruptcy, the Judge will make the rules. Exsisting contracts/agreements are void.

    Who do the dealers sue?

    The only ones getting rich are the attorneys and we will be paying the bulk of the bills.

    Don't you love it when a plan comes together? What an Obamanation.

    Don
     
  8. Bruce Specht

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    Communisim will defeat us from within anyone else remember Kruchev?
     
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    If this is true, then affected dealers need to sue Chrysler & the Government. Take it to a civil court in the South and you may prevail. BT-100dc
     
  11. bigdogtx

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    Actually the bondholders and stockholders need to bring the suit.
     
  12. ou.3200

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    Even if this is not true the stockholders, bondholders and dealers whose dealerships are to be closed need to sue Chrysler, GM, and the government. The Government is so deeply involved in this that a case likely can be made that Chrysler and GM are agents of the government and the government is essentially making the calls as to who wins and who loses.

    The 5th Amendment to the Constitution states in part "nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." The government took stock diluting stockholder's equity without compensating stockholders. The government took bondholder's priority position in the bankruptcy process without compensating bondholders. The government took dealer's dealerships from them without compensating them.

    The stock was redistributed partially to unions and partially to the government to use as bargaining chips. The bondholder's equity was in effect redistributed to the unions. The dealer's business was reassigned to other dealers of the government's choice. What a tangled web they weave.
     
  13. Dbl Auto

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    Guys, don't you think the vast majority of the owners are Republicans? Most business owners that I know (the ones that stay in business) don't run things like our current administration. This would be like saying most of the people who would lose their guns if a ban took place would be Republicans.
    Doug
     
  14. crusha

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    Do you ever wonder why the Gov't. made such huge loans to the auto companies in the first place? To secure priority creditor status in the ensuing flame-down, that's why. The Obama administration was already retaining bankruptcy counsel in January (as soon as they were inaugurated) to advise them on how to "secure the Government's position" as a superior interest in the auto firms in the "event" they went under. They weren't stupid. They saw the bondholders would eventually push the companies under, anyway. Obama's people simply wanted a way to get their foot in the door and make sure the Unions would get their "fair share" of the sloppy seconds. (It didn't hurt that Bammy's Boyz hold the power of God over Wall Street, and have the bully pulpit to hound them with, either).

    Bankruptcy will circumvent state Franchise laws, and that's that. It was planned this way all along...B'ruptcy was going to be needed, to get rid of dealers. Anybody with a brain could see that when the "moment of climax" arrived, the Government would place both hands behind the dealers' heads.

    No use for lawsuits, it's a done deal.

    And as an aside - does anybody want to offer a prediction on what effect this will have on how much you pay for a vehicle? Hmmm? Now that's change you can believe in.
     
  15. Andy44

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    Can you spell N.. W.... O....?

    AndyH ;-(
     
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    ou3200:

    Good thread; agree 100%.
    BT-100dc
     
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    Should have let them go under last year as predicted would happen anyway. But Obama had to protect his precious union UAW votes. What the adminisration has done is also illegal. They are calling it a "loan", when it is actually manipulation and redistribution of value. The bondholders value is being transferred to the UAW. $50 billion in tax payer's money gone. Suppliers screwed. Law suits galore to follow. GM will never be competitive with the Feds and UAW in charge. How would you like to be a bondholder right now? The incentive to be finacially involved in a major US business has been drasically devalued......as will the US dollar.
     
  18. eightbore

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    Dblauto and other posters may want to examine his post more carefully. Yes Republicans are the ones that "will lose their guns". Why do you think guns are such an important agenda for the libs? In fact, why do you think that driving the car dealers into the ground is such an important agenda for the libs? Yes, they are just about all Republicans. They are attempting to get the dealers to fight among themselves for their livelihood, just like they have the black gun people fighting with the brown gun people for theirs. Think twice before you regard your libbo neighbors and family members as "friends" or "like minded". They are not. They are sleeping with the enemy.
     
  19. bocephus

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    naldrvr, maybe you should read it again before you bash WND, they never said 90% of the dealerships donated to the republicans! 90% of the dealerships that are to be shutdown donated to them.
    Typical liberal distorting the facts.......
     
  20. Barry C. Roach

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    Just talked to an old HS classmate, a Chrysler dealer in a very small town in Illinois. He is conservative, almost libertarian. He just received his letter from Chrysler that his dealership is secure. "At least for now," he says.
     
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