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CB 3118 in Gold Medal?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by riflegunbuilder, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. riflegunbuilder

    riflegunbuilder Member

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    One of my shooting buddies gave me around 200 Gold Medal hulls and 50-100 pink Federal wads. I need a wad to load the remaining hulls. I have CB 3118 on hand that I load in Federal papers and Windjammers. Can I use 3118 as a sub using S-3 data?
     
  2. sterlingworth

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    The 3118 wad is not as "tall" as the pink wads and if you use them you will most likley end up with a sunken crimp.I use "TGT" replacements when I reload federal hulls.Works great for a double load.Good luck with it.
     
  3. School Teacher

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    The Claybuster CB3118 (full name is CB3118-12R) is a clone of the Federal 12C1 wad and is intended for Federal Paper hulls. It is a Figure 8 type wad for straight walled cases. The ones I have are red. I use it in the Federal Paper hull with 18 grains of Red Dot and a Federal 209A primer.

    The Claybuster CB2118 is a clone of the Federal 12S3 wad. It has a spiral body and is pink. I use it in Gold Medal plastic ribbed hulls with 19.5 grains of Green Dot and a Nobel Sport primer.

    The CB3118-12R has a slightly different over powder base than the CB2118 wad to match the old Federal 12C1 wad's 2 piece base. it is a tad shorter than the CB2118 wad.

    You can usually adjust your loader and/or use a more or less dense powder to obtain exactly the desired crimp.

    MEC is now making clones for the Federal 12S3 and 12S0 wads. I bought 1000 of the white 12S3 clones at last year's grand. They are 8 petal wads. They look interesting but I have not tried them yet.

    Ed Ward
     
  4. Beretta Young Gun

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    That wad will work just fine in a gold medal but check your loading data before just throwing that wad in there. If I'm not wrong the 3118 will require a little more powder than the S3 to get the same speed. I'm 100% certain the recoil will be less and the pressure will be down. I love those wads. BYG
     
  5. sterlingworth

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    The 3118 wad is not as "tall" as the pink wads and if you use them you will most likley end up with a sunken crimp.I use "TGT" replacements when I reload federal hulls.Works great for a double load.Good luck with it.
     
  6. School Teacher

    School Teacher Well-Known Member

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    The Claybuster CB3118 (full name is CB3118-12R) is a clone of the Federal 12C1 wad and is intended for Federal Paper hulls. It is a Figure 8 type wad for straight walled cases. The ones I have are red. I use it in the Federal Paper hull with 18 grains of Red Dot and a Federal 209A primer.

    The Claybuster CB2118 is a clone of the Federal 12S3 wad. It has a spiral body and is pink. I use it in Gold Medal plastic ribbed hulls with 19.5 grains of Green Dot and a Nobel Sport primer.

    The CB3118-12R has a slightly different over powder base than the CB2118 wad to match the old Federal 12C1 wad's 2 piece base. it is a tad shorter than the CB2118 wad.

    You can usually adjust your loader and/or use a more or less dense powder to obtain exactly the desired crimp.

    MEC is now making clones for the Federal 12S3 and 12S0 wads. I bought 1000 of the white 12S3 clones at last year's grand. They are 8 petal wads. They look interesting but I have not tried them yet.

    Ed Ward
     
  7. Beretta Young Gun

    Beretta Young Gun Active Member

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    That wad will work just fine in a gold medal but check your loading data before just throwing that wad in there. If I'm not wrong the 3118 will require a little more powder than the S3 to get the same speed. I'm 100% certain the recoil will be less and the pressure will be down. I love those wads. BYG
     
  8. Shooting Coach

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    This is the Red Eight. I use the heck out of them in Fed hulls. A bulky powder is in order. Red Dot comes to mind. I went back to Red Dot, don't know why I left it.
     
  9. riflegunbuilder

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    The CB3118 AR (pink/red) are in the approx. 200 Gold Medal hulls. I was very unimpressed with the GM hulls. STS and or Federal Papers maks a better looking finished shell I think. The GM hulls would make 8 - 12 goodlooking shell then the next hull or two would have a jacked up looking crimp. Tried 8 pt and smooth starter both with little difference. Oh well, Fed papers are back in the hull feeder now.