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CARBON FIBRA STOCK FOR PERAZZI

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by decimamas 54, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. decimamas 54

    decimamas 54 Active Member

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    A friend of mine works in Lamborghini and made a stock with carbon fiber.
    What do you think?
     
  2. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Marcello. Trapshooters buy Monte Carlo stocks.
     
  3. skeet_man

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    What material was used for the core of the stock?
     
  4. wayneo

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    I like that alot !!

    Wayne
     
  5. Aussie Dan

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    looks like a great bunker gun, i wonder how much it kicks?
     
  6. Steve W

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    I like it.
     
  7. lytnin1

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    Carbon Fibre----LESS weight= MORE kick ??
     
  8. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    A Lamborghini stock on a Perazzi!

    What will da Bavarians do?
     
  9. skeet_man

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    I really doubt the stock is made entirely of carbon fiber, its most likely low grade wood wrapped in carbon fiber. CF is made to be used on the OUTSIDE of things to strengthen them, but from what I've read not a very good choice to make solid things out of (and would be INCREDIBLY expensive as nobody really makes solid blocks of CF). If you look at the stock, the CF texture flows evenly over the surface. If it were made of solid CF, it would look much like a laminate stock, since the layers only go in one axis.
     
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    I like it.
     
  11. Dickgshot

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    Skeet man: I think you're wrong. I don't think you could get sheet carbon fiber-which is very stiff-to wrap around those compound curves. I think it's
    a wood stock, like you said, dipped in the same kind of film you find on the
    Jack West and Soft Touch stocks.
     
  12. skeet_man

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    CF is a flexible fabric until you add resin to it. Looking at the way the design stretches and bends, esp @ the grip (look at the bottom of the grip in pic 1), I don't believe its a dip, which would be completely uniform in look the entire way around the stock.
     
  13. Dickgshot

    Dickgshot Well-Known Member

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    Skeet man. Good point, but in my model airplane building days, we added
    carbon fiber strips for strength and rigidity, but had to use glass cloth and
    polyester or epoxy resin for wrapping around curves. Carbon fiber is just that -
    fibers, and stiff fibers at that.
     
  14. skeet_man

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    CF is the same as fiberglass cloth in its virgin state (a flexible fabric). The strips you used were CF fabric already impregnated with resin. You could have used CF fabric for wrapping, but it probably wouldn't make financial sense for model airplanes.
     
  15. Avaldes

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    Marcello would have to tell us how this stock is made. Too difficult to tell based on photos. Could be wood core with CF wet layup and vacuum bagged onto the outer surface. Or it could be a CF part (wet or pre-preg) made in a mold, with or without a core material. Either way you need to leave some sacrificial plies of glass in the grip areas to hold checkering.

    I have given this some thought in the past myself, but never had enough spare time to follow thru. The advantage is that you can get a stock that is just as stiff as a conventional stock at a fraction of the weight. Then you can put ballast weight exactly where you need it to get the properties you want in the stock/forearm. This is very common in high performance parts, think golfclubs, race cars, racing sailboats, airplanes.

    You could also add active and passive damping systems in the stock and REALLY tune out recoil.
     
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    I think it looks GREAT !!!!!!!! Joe joe90t
     
  17. daddiooo

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    I'll stick with my Wenig stock thank you.
     
  18. decimamas 54

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    Avaldes I just talked with the engineer about the stock and he told me that there is not wood inside; the stock is made with a stamp and it is made with resine and carbon only.
    I told him that to make it more adaptable to all the shooters it should add adjustable hardware on the back where the pad is. I'm going to look for some American hardware to help him making a perfect stock.
     
  19. little gambler

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    Some of the posters on here think a Perazzi is already expensive and overpriced.

    Just wait until Lamborghini ends up building your stock, I can already hear the crying. l.g.
     
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