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Caps and the National Anthem

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by 9point3, Apr 16, 2011.

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  1. 9point3

    9point3 Well-Known Member

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    Tonite I worked at the launching of the USNS William McLean at the General Dynamics Ship yard in San Diego and was suprized at the number of A$$ Holes that failed to remove there caps when the National Anthem was performed. Kinda Pissed me off
     
  2. RobertT

    RobertT Well-Known Member

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    My stepfather who was retired navy told me a story from World WarII. At that time towers around Naval Station San diego were manned 24/7 with armed guards. One morning during the playing of the national anthem a civilian caretaker failed to stop and remove his hat. He was shot and killed on the spot, perhaps a little harsh but it got the point across.

    Robert
     
  3. Jon Reitz

    Jon Reitz Well-Known Member

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    9point3,

    The Department of Veterans Affairs now authorizes vets not in uniform to salute the National Anthem when covered, indoors or out. We must salute though if we choose to remain covered, again indoors or out.

    The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the National Anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran. It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14.

    Thanks,

    Jon Reitz
     
  4. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    You see more and more of that kind of disrespect at any sporting event and its not just young people. Makes a person want to backhand them on the spot.
     
  5. oskerspap12

    oskerspap12 Active Member

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    I'll tell you what........if I did something like that my daddy would have whipped the tar outa me.As for my kid(Osker)...he knows better than to disrespect the flag,or our country in my presence,or not.God Bless America.

    D.P.Reynolds
     
  6. 9point3

    9point3 Well-Known Member

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    Jon, Nice to know but there was no saluting in these cases
     
  7. oletymer

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    Most of the assholes that don't remove their hats are bald fat guys.
     
  8. 9point3

    9point3 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bald fat guy and I removed my hat!!
     
  9. GW22

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    Hmmmm, I wonder if it might be because we, as a society, have subsidized white trash, ghetto urchins and single mothers of all creeds to breed like rabbits and raise kids who are complete disrespectful A-Holes?

    Naah, probably just a coincidence.

    -Gary
     
  10. geneleroy

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    I love my flag and fly it on a lighted standard 24/7! I don't like to see 'it' or our National Anthem disrespected. The persons(most likely a so called celebrity)that disrespect our Anthem by attempting to sing this beautiful song should be tried for Treason and shot! I have always respected the Flag & Anthem by standing, but I have come really, really close to sitting when one of these idiots attempts to do "their thing" with our Anthem! Just my $0.02 worth! The Anthem needs to be played by a big brass band, no vocalist! Any of the military bands do a super job!
     
  11. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they are related to some of these....

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  12. shooterIII

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    The most disrespect I have witnessed for the Flag and the National Anthem is at the Chicago Bears games. Absolutely disgusting.
     
  13. Coyote 270

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    This was just posted and has to be the best baseball play of the century.
     
  14. Jon Reitz

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    9point3,

    I've never had a problem dealing with a person who failed to show the respect due our country, our flag, or our National Anthem. I wait until it's over and then make an "on-the-spot-correction". I will NOT tolerate that BS.

    Respectfully,

    Jon Reitz
     
  15. pyrdek

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    I am noticing more and more flags flying that are torn, ripped, badly faded and in general well past their useful life. When I do see such a flag flying, if I can determine who its owner is, I try to contact them and, tactfully, let them know that their flag should be replaced. I will also, if I can find out who is conducting a flag retirement ceremony in the area, let them know so the flag can be properly destroyed in accordance with the Flag Code. American Legion, VFW Posts, Boy Scout Troops and other such groups usually have this ceremony at least once a year. The hard part is finding out who to contact.

    Here is a short summary about the retirement of a Flag. It is followed by a link which provides a more detailed look at how a Flag Retirement ceremony is conducted.

    "In earlier times, most American flags were made of cotton or wool. But today's flags are often nylon or other petroleum-based materials. Burning them can release hazardous gases, including formaldehydes, ammonia, carbon monoxide, and traces of hydrogen cyanide into the air. In some states, it is even illegal to burn nylon, so adhering to the Flag Code puts you in direct violation of the law. Burning is preferred for cotton and wool flags. Nylon and flags made from other synthetics can be buried.

    "Modern flag retirement ceremonies, often held annually on Flag Day, sometimes feature the symbolic burning of a single flag (cotton or wool) and the burial of the others. This is both safe and respectful."

    Flag Retirement Ceremony
     
  16. Charkat1

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    We always say the pledge of allegience at the beginning of our gun club meetings. I sometimes wear a baseball cap and was instructed to uncover by one of our members which I did even though as a female it wasn't necessary. We were taught flag etiquette as gradeschool children. Men, wearing hats, uncovered, saluted or put hands over their heart. Ladies held hands over their heart. Just to check myself I checked online to see if my recollection was correct, and it was. Guess this isn't taught anymore. By not respecting our own country we destroy ourselves from within.
     
  17. BIG JIM IN BAKERSFIELD

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    This is what they need to know!!!
     
  18. Captain Bud

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    If you have ever met me you know that I have a very powerful (loud) voice when I wish to project it. I will usually state loudly "Hats gentlemen" when the National Anthem starts to play, should I see someone with a hat on their head. It usually works.

    Some folks just need a reminder and that is unfortunate.

    Philip Santos (USAF 1969-1977)
     
  19. Hauxfan

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    It has been okayed for men or women who are veterans to leave their cap on as long as they salute during our National Anthem.

    Hauxfan!
     
  20. recurvyarcher

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    There was at least one man that I saw at the San Antonio SW Grand who neither removed his cap nor saluted during the anthem. He just stood there looking up at the flag. He was across the parking lot and too far away for me to say something to him. I wished I had scissor arms that were long enough to have snatched his hat off his head.
     
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