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Canadians & Jaquas

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Felice Taddz, Jan 12, 2008.

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  1. Felice Taddz

    Felice Taddz Member

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    Just wondering if any Canadians have ever bought a gun from Jaquas? If so how was getting it over the boarder?

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  2. Joe Potosky

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    A Canadain cannot take possession (private sale, gun club, or from the trunk of a car).

    It must be shipped by an FFL to Canada.

    The big problem is finding an FFL that will ship to Canada. Lawry may do it if you give them a call. I think Bill Malcom knows a company around Buffalo that will do it, but not sure.

    Something I posted back in November if you wish to do it legal.

    http://losttarget.blogspot.com/2007/11/importing-firearm-into-canada.html
     
  3. Haskins Bill

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    I think I would maybe call Jaquas and ask them. I am sure that having been in the business for as long as they have that this question has come up before. It is after all, exporting firearms out of the United States. Now then you could contact a gang banger in Toronto to handle the transaction, they seem to have no problems getting guns and to hear the Candian press it is all the United States fault what with our 'lax' firearms laws and all of that!!!
     
  4. GoldEx

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    A Canadian citizen CAN take posession of a firearm legally imported into Canada form the person who brought it in. As long as the form 909 that allowed the gun to be legally brought into Canada is given to the buyer, they can then obtain the necessary documentation from their provincial muckey mucks to get it registered. At least that's how it was explained to me by a good friend in canada when I sold my 682 GoldE to a friend of his last year. So, if a Canadian wanted a gun that Jaquas has, and knew an American that was willing to purchase it and then bring it into canada and bypass all of the beaurocratic BS that goes along with importation, they could do the exchange I have described.

    Jeff
     
  5. Beretta687EELL

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    American dealers will not sell to a Canadian, unless the gun is transfered to or the dealer is an exporting FFL. I bought my Kolar from Clay Target Sports in NJ and it was shipped to Buffalo Gun Center in Buffalo NY. The BGC delivered it to Canada Customs, where I paid the taxes required and proved that it was registered in Canada. That is pretty much the only legal way to do it that I am aware of.

    If an American citizen happens to be in Canada for a trap shoot as Jeff was above and happens to meet a guy in Canada that wants to buy his gun ... it can work pretty much as Jeff describes above.

    If you want some more information, you can e-mail me ... billmalcolm@rogers.com ... put "Trapshooting" in the subject box. Bill Malcolm
     
  6. LI

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    A Canadian without status cannot take legal possession of a firearm in the US. Also, any firearm being exported from the US needs an export permit. This is available through people like Denise at Leroys or others. The Lost Target (Joe Potosky) is a good source for information on this subject. While I am here, let me offer a sincere thanks to Joe for his work in this area. Larry
     
  7. Joe Potosky

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    If it was that easy, just bring it over the border and sell it, I would bring a dozen firearms with me every time I crossed the border. I would never have to pay for my shooting again, as the profits would be huge on high end guns.

    Playing with fire...

    Yes, many things can be brought over the border and sold, and even registered with the Canadian government, however, the American is placing him or herself at great risk.

    I would just hope that any firearm sold by an American in Canada WITHOUT a valid U.S. export permit is never involved in a crime, as if the firearm can be traced back to the US owner, he or she will have to do a bit of tap dancing with the feds.
     
  8. Joe Potosky

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    I would have recommended Questar International, but for the past few month or so they had a posting saying they had suspended that service.

    I had heard the person that handled that portion of the business has moved on and they were looking for a replacement.

    Looks like they are back in business, as I no longer see the posting.

    Good catch...
     
  9. ric m

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    Two weeks ago I purchased a Browning XT Unsingle Golden Clays Combo from Guns Unlimited in Omaha Nebraska.
    I was suprised to see just how simple it was to accomplish.
    Here's how I did it:
    First I looked at the web site, picked out the gun I wanted Then I phoned them.
    I spoke with a salesperson who took my order and my credit card number to process the sale. He then gave me the serial number of the shotgun so I could proceed with the registration, Then he gave me the name and phone number of a company that was close to the border and has the necessary FFL and export license.
    I Phoned the Canadian Firearms Center, The Gun was verified over the phone and a registration certificate was mailed to me within 5 days.
    I then waited for the sports shop to recieve the gun (Three days)
    I went across the border to the sports shop, presented my reg. certificate filled out some paperwork, approx. 15 mins. the owner of the shop took the gun to the border, The Canadian border services inspected the papers and the gun,
    They relieved me of $615.00 in GST and PST and sent me on my way.
    From start to finish it took 7 days. No hassle, No unexpected trouble Just SMOOTH AS SILK! Hope this helps. Rick Morgan
     
  10. Joe Potosky

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    Additional information would be appreciated.

    Could you give us the name of the gun shop near the border, as many would be interested?

    Also, could you tell us what the gun shop charged for the service?

    Thanks

    Email me if you prefer.
     
  11. jsteenson

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    I'm going through this right now.I purchased a shotgun form Galazan and they sent it to an FFL dealer in Montana.I sent him the import permit and a letter typed in a format he isntructed me on and he now applies for an export permit.Them I go to Coutts/Sweetgrass to get it.How lng the export permit takes to get from Uncle Sam I don't know.Any one have and Idea how long?Jack
     
  12. Beretta687EELL

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    When I imported mine through Buffalo a year ago, it took about 3 weeks for my registration to come through. Once I had that, I was able to get the BGC to bring it to the border. The process may be different now. Bill Malcolm
     
  13. BrotherwolfCA

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    Joe why don't you be honest and tell us the real reason for your two questions.
    Are you interested in a reward? Are you planning your own import business or are interested in causing problems for the gun shop?
     
  14. LI

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    Jack, I have brought in 2 guns in the way you are doing. One was fairly quick, the other took several months. Was never sure why the delay on the second one but it was the export permit from the US that took all the time. Perhaps things have changed, but the FFL/Export dealer I used had to apply for a permit specific to the gun in question. Give me a call if you want to discuss this further. I'm leaving for Las Vegas ( trade show and some Harley riding) but will be back on the 24th of Jan.
    To BrotherwolfCA, Joe has setup and maintained a site that is a great help to us here in Canada; I for one do not appreciate your post.
    Larry
     
  15. Joe Potosky

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    RE: Joe why don't you be honest and tell us the real reason for your two questions. Are you interested in a reward? Are you planning your own import business or are interested in causing problems for the gun shop?

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    Obviously, you don't visit the Lost Target web site or you would not ask the question.

    A little bit for everyone and hopefully helpful for most. Donate or not, the information is free for all to use.

    As for my quest for information...

    My theory is that whatever your trying to do, someone else has done it, so why reinvent the wheel. I'm always looking for the person who's had hands on experience.

    I then post it for all, as I hate to lose the history, and it sure makes it easier for the next guy.

    I live near the Canadian border and half my shooting is done in Canada. I've been to many shoots where I was the only American present. I see first hand the problems that Canadians and Americans have in regard to firearms and crossing the border with same, or there sale and puchase, to include shipping parts for firearms in regard to the border.

    An FFL that will ship to Canada is rare. When I come across one that can be verified I will add them to the listings. If I can't verify, I won't post.

    Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works in Montana and several others will do it. Always happy to add a few more to the listing, as some charge a very high price for the service.

    http://www.losttarget.com/firearmlaws.html#CANADAUS
     
  16. ric m

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    Hi Joe, I have no problem helping out other shooters.
    The name of the store is Dave's Sportshop. He is in Lynden WA. (360)354-5591 about 20 minutes from the Aldergrove B.C. crossing, Very friendly and excellent service. This fellow could not do enough for us. I will deal with this company again in the future. Rick
     
  17. ric m

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    Sorry I forgot to include the charge for paperwork and delivery to the border.
    $65.00 US. Not nearly enough IMHO. Rick
     
  18. Joe Potosky

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    Thanks...

    I updated the page I have posted in regard to the topic.

    Anyone else that would like to share there experencience to help the next guy, please drop me a line or post here.
     
  19. Beretta687EELL

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    Buffalo Gun Center charged me $375.00 for paperwork and delivery to the border. I believe their minimum charge is $300 unless you bought the gun from them. Way too much in everyone's opinion, but at the time they were the only option that I had. Bill Malcolm
     
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