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Can I bend my stock at home for more cast?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Dr.Longshot, Jan 22, 2009.

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  1. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    Can I bend my stock at home for more right hand cast? Possibly by laying a bag of shot on it and having the Bbl supported at an elevated height, and adding a hot wet cloth under the shot, or using an electric heating pad.

    I need an 1/8th -3/16ths more cast. Comb is adjusted to Max.



    Gary Bryant
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  2. grunt

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    Have Dr Gun do it right. Unless you dont care if you screw up the stock.
     
  3. Dr.Longshot

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    I am in the process of bending my stock as I am writing this. I put a hot water
    soaked towell around the Pistol Grip and supported the reciever on a 2X4 and am using an adjustable clamp, I will know how it is working later, it will remain in the clamp until 5:00 pm today and I will be going shooting tonite, will do the same thing tomarrow to bend it further.



    Gary Bryant
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  4. phirel

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    Gary- Good luck.

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  5. hmb

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    To bend or not to bend, that is the question. It seems you have already answered the question. Bon chance mon ami. HMB
     
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    I saw a simpler method using an infra red heat lamp and straining it as you say.

    Should work.

    HM
     
  7. rennerize

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    Gary let me know how this works out for you. I do not hink the wet rag will be enough heat. If this does not work try a heat lamp but be careful not burn your finish.
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    How did it turn out?
     
  9. shot410ga

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    Sure you can. Make a steam box, with a removable top, and with a teapot shooting steam in. Clamp the stock in the box with an external pressure device (large thumb screw and a piece of wood rapped with a rag). Apply pressure to the point of bend while steaming. continue to apply pressure for a couple of hours until the stock is where you want it. Let it stand in the clamping device until dry (couple of days, at least). This method is used by all old world boat builders. I've done it, and it works. But, it may ruin the finish, I don't know. Try it on a scrap piece with finish first.
     
  10. shutupandshoot

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    I did not take the time to read all the above replies but if you have a beretta 68? series gun, I will be selling my stock and it has a lot of right hand cast to it. It also has an adjustable comb done by GRACO. I am looking for a precision fit stock
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  11. shot410ga

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    Don't get to strung out on this, it's no big deal. Although, you may have to enlarge your bolt hole a little to fit the bent stock.
     
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    JBrooks...you are one funny man! I need you to do some of my cartoon writing.

    lol, puablo
     
  13. Bob Schultz

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    This fellow was a former stock bender who took up auto repair....seems this career choice may be even less productive than stock bending.

    Adjustable butt plate and comb are cheaper than a new stock. Bending seldom holds and usually ruins the finish.

    Bob
     
  14. Dr.Longshot

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    I have adjustable butt plate and adj. comb, but still need more cast off for RH
    shooter, I tried the damp towells with a wood clamp, resting the reciever on a wooden block, this did not work, I bought a 250 watt Infra Red heat lamp bulb and reflector w/porcelain light socket so it would not burn up, left heat lamp on it for several hours at a time and checking to be sure stock was not damaged. This Caesar Guerini Stock is one tough SOB bent very little, was afraid to put much more pressure on it afraid of cracking stock, Maybe I needed more heat, kept the towell very wet, If I had to guess I may have gotten 1/16th of an inch as sight picture is a little bit better, with these cold days I may set up the rig again and keep tension on it for several days.
    A friend who has done this, this way on a Perazzi Stock said it bent in 15 minutes.

    Gary Bryant
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  15. JLW

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    I use a homemade jig to support the receiver, not bb'ls. and clamp to the butt.
    It is possible to do a good job w/o a wet rag and bend some twist(toe greater than heel). Make sure you clamp and support the head where it meets up to the receiver as the most stress will be here and it is possible to break it.

    I use regular heat lamps no closer than 6". Watch the heat on the wood very carefully and let it "soak" while being restrained by a clamp. I've never used a wet rag.

    Several years back I bent an LC Smith SXS and it has retained the bend.

    Exercise caution and apply pressure after the wood is hot.-Jerald
     
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    Anyone have an extra Caesar Guerini Stock on hand? I gotsa feeling that Gary (bull in the china shop sorta guy) may need one here soon. :) Is there any truth about bending wood one time, not twice? Careful Gary!! Hap
     
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    Stock bolt is an issue. I have opened the hole, bent the stock. and then added a bushing to realign hole.

    Use care and caution-Jerald
     
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    I did not have the heat lamp close enough, moved it to 8-10 inches from the stock, and the stock finally got heated up, took tablespoons of hot water and put directly on the stock a little bit at a time for about 20 minutes or so
    and turned off the heat lamp and let stock cool off and dry out, moved a little bit more, I think I got my 1/8th inch now.

    I took pictures of my stock bending process and may get them posted here.

    I used a 2x4 to rest my reciever on, being sure it was also on the wood, if not the stock would split easily at the fork in the wood where the tang extends into the wood. I used one of the furniture style clamps that they use to hold several pieces of wood togeteher while gluing them

    After talking to a friend of minethat has done this he asked how close I had the heat lamp, I told him and he said I had to get it closer to the stock so it would get hot enough that you could not touch it, but not enough to damage the finish, this is when I got things to work out.

    It actually is a very easy thing to do, but you need something to hold the heat lamp, I used the bed of my band saw and slid the band saw to distance needed for the proper heat on the stock.

    Myself I require a stock with a lot of RH cast due to fat facial features, most guns come with zero cast unless they have cast options like Kolar and Special order Perazzi's. On my Kolar's I had both the #2 and #4 RH twisted sister stocks but the combs are not high enough and have have psecial pins made to get proper sight alignment, If I remember it is 5/8 inch at the comb and I shoot 1/8th to 1/4 inch drop at comb, a very high stock.

    I wish I could post pictures to this site, this dumb computer operator can only punch keys.

    Gary Bryant
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  19. KEYBEAR

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    Gary I have the same problem as you . I don,t like cast-off as It needs to be alot more at the recoil pad then you need . Also you need to place your face in the same spot every time . I like off-set much better as the comb is straight with the rib .

    Good luck ALF
     
  20. gun fitter

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    We just went through this on another posting about bending.


    DON'T DO IT!!!!

    Bending creates improper geometry and does not work for target shooting.

    It is good for my bussiness replacing cracked broken and ill fitting stocks.

    Joe Goldberg
     
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