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Can a individual send a shotgun to a FFL dealer

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by goodhookset, Jan 28, 2011.

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  1. goodhookset

    goodhookset TS Member

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    A Question:
    Can a individual sell a shotgun and send it ( with drivers license information and another ID enclosed in the package) to a FFL dealer and have it picked up. Not FFL dealer to FFL dealer.
    Thanks in advance for the responses.
    Leon
     
  2. goodhookset

    goodhookset TS Member

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    A Question:
    Can a individual sell a shotgun and send it ( with drivers license information and another ID enclosed in the package) to a FFL dealer and have it picked up. Not FFL dealer to FFL dealer.
    Thanks in advance for the responses.
    Leon
     
  3. Hammer1

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    Be sure to check with qualified counsel and the laws and regulations pertaining to your state before taking any action.

    But think that some states allow direct shipment to an FFL from an individual, e.g., for gun repair.

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  4. PerazziBigBore

    PerazziBigBore TS Member

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    The dealer would have to do a 4473..just as if he were selling the gun..and would want to be paid for his effort.. Any gun I sell goes to the buyers FFL.. and he does the paperwork at his FFL.. that's how it's done..
     
  5. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    PBB is absolutely correct. Doesn't have to go from an FFL, but it has to go TO an FFL. Unless you are shipping within your state, then, so long as your state doesn't have any laws stating otherwise, you can ship directly to the other party.
     
  6. Mark425

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    Short answer... YES
    Longer answer... In most states all that needs to be done is have the receiving FFL holder fax/mail you a signed copy of their FFL. You present the FFL and your package to the shipper to send to the address on the FFL. I have shipped many guns, and thats about all their is to it.

    Mark

    p.s. Last two guns I shipped, UPS only required that they were being shipped to a business address. Didnt seem interested in the FFL. ????
    Anyway, search UPS and FedEX sites on how to ship a firearm, all the info is there.
     
  7. gaboy77

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    The above comments are absolutely correct that an individual can ship to and FFL dealer. Just make sure that the dealer you are sending to will accept shipments from an individual. Through buying on another site, I found that not all dealers will accept from an indiviudal although the law would allow.
     
  8. Steve W

    Steve W Well-Known Member

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    Based on Federal law, a non-FFL individual can send to a FFL in another state or within the same state.

    Unless local regulation prevent you from doing so, you can send it yourself.
     
  9. kenf

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    Thank you for your recent inquiry to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). This is in response to your email dated January 25, 2011, in which you inquired about interstate shipment of firearms.

    A person (non-licensee) may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30].

    A non-licensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]. Please contact your local Post Office and/or common carrier to inquire about their shipment requirements/restrictions.

    Also, Federal law only requires a Federal firearms licensee (FFLs) to provide a copy of their signed license when acquiring firearms from other FFLs. FFLs are not required by ATF to submit a copy of their licenses to non-licensees. In addition, ATF does not get involve in civil disputes between an FFL and their customer. Unless a Federal law or regulation has been violated, ATF does not have the authority to comment on the business practices of an FFL (i.e. conducting or not interstate transfers) since they are operating their own business. While we can understand that this may be frustrating for you, ATF cannot assist with those types of matters. In these types of situations, we suggest that you contact your local Consumer Protection Agency or other such similar agency for further assistance.

    Please note, that there may be State or local laws or regulations that govern this type of transaction. You should contact the office of your State Attorney General (www.naag.org) for information on any such requirements.

    We trust this correspondence has been responsive to your inquiry. Should you have any further questions, please feel free to contact your local ATF Industry Operations Office. A list of ATF Office telephone numbers can be found at http://www.atf.gov/field.

    Regards,
    Firearms Industry Programs Branch, ATF
     
  10. whiz white

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    EXAMPLE: Your new gun broke, so you ship it back to the factory.

    You are NOT and FFL, but, obviously, they are.

    Never a problem.

    Whiz<BR>
    FFL Dealer
     
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    To confusing for me. I yearn for the good old days.
    Steve Balistreri
     
  12. goodhookset

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    I really do appreciate all the feedback from everyone, and it is a great website to gain information from all perspectives.

    Thanks Again


    Leon
     
  13. englishupland

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    Just go to the ATF website..I think under the FAQ..It's all there Federally..Check state laws as well..
     
  14. short shucker

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    Two things to keep in mind here is that it is up to the receiving FFL as to whether he will accept from an idivigule. I always ask this question to save on any confusion.This also pertains to long gun shipments only.

    Handguns are FFL to FFL only in most circumstances.

    ss
     
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