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California - There We Go!!!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Bucko43, Mar 22, 2012.

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  1. Bucko43

    Bucko43 Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting evaluation of the non-workings of the California government and possibly of America's future if Obama returns for another 4 years!
    (Written by Roger Hedgecock former mayor of San Diego Wednesday, 25 January 2012)


    Good morning,
    I live in California. If you were wondering what living in Obama's second term would be like, wonder no longer. We in California are living there now.
    California is a one-party state dominated by a Democrat Left enabled by a complicit media where every agency of local, county, and state government is run by and for the public employee unions. The unemployment rate is 12%.
    California has more folks on food stamps than any other state, has added so many benefits and higher rates to Medicaid that we call it "Medi-Cal." Our K-12 schools have more administrators than teachers, with smaller classes but lower test scores and higher dropout rates with twice the per-student budget of 15 years ago. Good job, Brownie.

    This week, the once and current Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown had to confess that the "balanced" state budget adopted five months ago was billions in the red because actual tax revenues were billions lower than the airy-fairy revenue estimates on which the balance was predicated.

    After trimming legislators' perks and reducing the number of cell phones provided to state civil servants, the governor intoned that drastic budget reductions had already hollowed out state programs for the needy, law enforcement and our schoolchildren. California government needed more money.
    Echoing the Occupy movement, the governor proclaimed the rich must pay their fair share. Fair share? The top 1% of California income earners currently pays 50% of the state's income tax.

    California has seven income tax brackets. The top income tax rate is 9.3%, which is slapped on the greedy rich earning at least $47,056 a year. Income of more than $1 million pays the "millionaires' and billionaires'" surcharge tax rate of 10.3%.

    Brown's proposal would add 2% for income over $250,000. A million-dollar income would then be taxed at 12.3%. And that's just for the state.
    Brown also proposed a one-half-cent sales tax increase, which would bring sales taxes (which vary by county) up to 7.75% to as much as 10%. Both tax increases would be on the ballot in 2012.

    The sales tax increase proposal immediately brought howls of protest from the Left (of Brown!). Charlie Eaton, a sociology grad student at UC Berkeley and leader of the UC Student-Workers Union, said, "We've paid enough. It's time for millionaires to pay."

    At least five other ballot measures to raise taxes are circulating for signatures to get on the 2012 ballot in California. The governor's proposals are the most conservative.

    The Obama way doesn't end with taxes. The governor and the state legislature continue to applaud the efforts of the California High Speed Rail Authority to build a train connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco. Even though the budget is three times the voter-approved amount, and the first segment will only connect two small towns in the agricultural Central Valley. But hey, if we build it, they will ride.

    And we don't want to turn down the Obama bullet-train bucks Florida and other states rejected because the operating costs would bankrupt them. Can't happen here because we're already insolvent.

    If we get into real trouble with the train, we'll just bring in the Chinese. It worked with the Bay Bridge reconstruction. After the 1989 earthquake, the bridge connecting Oakland and San Francisco was rebuilt with steel made in China. Workers from China too. Paid for with money borrowed from China. Makes perfect sense.

    In California, we hate the evil, greedy rich (except the rich in Hollywood, in sports, and in drug dealing). But we love people who have broken into California to eat the bounty created by the productive rich.

    Illegals get benefits from various generous welfare programs, free medical care, free schools for their kids, including meals, and of course, instate tuition rates and scholarships too. Nothing's too good for our guests.
    To erase even a hint of criticism of illegal immigration, the California Legislature is considering a unilateral state amnesty. Democrat State Assemblyman Felipe Fuentes has proposed an initiative that would bar deportation of illegals from California.

    Interesting dilemma for Obama there. If immigration is exclusively a federal matter, and Obama has sued four states for trying to enforce federal immigration laws he won't enforce, what will the President do to a California law that exempts California from federal immigration law?
    California is also near fulfilling the environmentalist dream of deindustrialization.

    After driving out the old industrial base (auto and airplane assembly, for example), air and water regulators and tax policies are now driving out the high-tech, biotech and even Internet-based companies that were supposed to be California's future.

    The California cap-and-trade tax on business in the name of reducing CO2 makes our state the leader in wacky environmentalism and guarantees a further job exodus from the state. Even green energy companies can't do business in California. Solyndra went under, taking its taxpayer loan guarantee with it.
    No job is too small to escape the regulators. The state has even banned weekend amateur gold miners from the historic gold mining streams in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

    In fact, more and more of California's public land is off-limits to recreation by the people who paid for that land. Unless you're illegal.
    Then you can clear the land, set up marijuana plantations at will, bring in fertilizers that legal farmers can no longer use, exploit illegal farm workers who live in hovels with no running water or sanitation, and protect your investment with armed illegals carrying guns no California citizen is allowed to own.

    The rest of us only found out about these plantations when the workers' open campfire started one of those devastating fires that have killed hundreds of people and burned out thousands of homes in California over the last decade.
    It's often said that whatever happens in California will soon happen in your state.

    You'd better hope that's wrong.
    Roger Hedgecock is the former mayor of San Diego and a nationally syndicated radio talk show host.
     
  2. timberfaller

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    California can't help themselves, they don't even understand the meaning of "Illegal"!!!!

    Its to much work first, to have the ability to THINK, because now it takes to much of a effort to impound car's driven by illegals!! The illegals can kill and main Citizens and Thats OK with them(so call leaders)!!
     
  3. Gunn

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    Timberfaller; California understands illegal. As in GUNS. Tim
     
  4. fssberson

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    I too live in Calif., 3rd generation. I think you exaggerate with some of your complaints. I don't want to spend the time picking your statements apart, but 50% of what you complain about is false, e.g. more school administrators than teachers. IF you are that upset with living in the 'Golden State', MOVE! There are 49 other states that would love to collect your tax dollar. Fred
     
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    50% of what is written was wrong, but it's too much work to back that up? Not exactly the kind repudiation that has any worth whatsoever.
     
  6. timberfaller

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    "Actions speak louder then words" about any state that is going down the slope of socialism!
     
  7. no5shooter

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    Hey Fred - if you move California just pursues you when you retire, for income taxes on your retirement income since you earned the base for at least some of that income while you were in California. You can't escape the bastards in Sacramento!
     
  8. oletymer

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    Bull shit. California does not tax your retirement if you move out of state.
     
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    oletymer,

    Are you sure about that?
    I am not retired but getting closer all the time.
    Was told that any retirement money from a 401k or defined pension or IRA that was earned while living in Ca. would be taxable by the state even if I moved out of state.

    Sure hope you are right.

    Robert
     
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    Even if you don't live in California, have never lived in California or even visited the state of California they are sucking federal tax dollars from the rest of us. There are plenty of us who are praying the San Andreas fault will do her job in the near future.
     
  11. darr

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    These idiots have taxed away the tax base.No business man or corporation in their right mind is going to stay in a state that is so insanely over regulated and taxed.Silicon Valley is a ghost town.I would have left along time ago except I farm and this is where I was able to lease ground.Now that these ridiculous state funded solar plants are being built on my farm ground I will be out of business shortly.If I can find more ground to lease it is going to be more expensive seeing as how these projects are taking up 10,000 acres in my area.My area produces a large portion of feed for the dairy industry that is having a hard time paying for record high alfalfa because there isn't enough.Of coarse they can't raise the price of milk because it is government controlled.armers in this state are so heavily regulated and taxed they have to be twice as good as Az or Mexican farmers just to compete.I am ranting again.

    Darr Wilson
     
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    Darr, you aren't ranting you are telling the truth, they are stupid

    I guess they are as stupid as their voters, they think food comes from the grocery store

    No dumb shit, farmers grow the food, the stores just sell it and make more money than the folks who provide it
     
  13. Bucko43

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    Yep makes great sense to me. Take farm land that Darr currently leases and put solar panels on it instead of growing food. There are so many wide open spaces in California, why do they need to take Darr's property? What about Death Valley, what about adding to the solar panels already lining the US395 highway?

    Califonia is a great state, and I've lived here all my life. But the absolute liberal idiots in this state are enough to make a person want to move.

    Darr, you might want to talk to Congressman Duncan Hunter. He may have some ideas how you can get around this issue. He's a great guy and supports all us shooters. He's probably not your Congressman, but he's a loyal San Diego East County resident and shooter at Lemon Grove Rod and Gun Club. Just google his name and his contact info will come up. He has an office in El Cajon. See you at the range Wednesday.

    Kevin
     
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    Political corruption, gross financial mismanagement, crippling taxation, unaffordable housing and abject moral decline have been driving businesses and middle-class citizens out of California in droves. The author is right -- CA is a preview of the future for this country if we continue to tolerate what our government is doing.

    Hit the link and look at how Texas was pulling people from CA and NY, even in 2010. And CA's situation has worsened since then. It's amazing when a state run as badly as Texas is still considered a refuge by people who have experienced Euro-Socialism first-hand.

    For most of a century California was a shining beacon of hope, optimism and pride for the greatest country on earth. What is it now?

    -Gary
     
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    ... and still they haven't learned. Hit the link. All Califonia's taxes, corruption and mismanagement has resuted in 22.22% LESS revenue.

    -Gary
     
  16. oletymer

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    RWT, yes I am right. I moved to north central Washington 11 years ago after retiring. I earned my pension and 401 money while living in California and pay them no income tax.
     
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    Gary what do you mean a state run as badly as Texas??????

    We seem to surviving the melt down better than anybody, with the exception of N Dakota
     
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    This country would be a hell of a lot better off if all the states were run as "badly" as Texas. Understandably, GW22 is envious to say something so nutty. Sounds like obummer logic.
     
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    Texas is over-run with illegal aliens and it has more people on food stamps than California, despite having only 2/3 the population. You've got to get up pretty early to generate freeloaders at a rate >50% higher than California.

    Texas' state budget shortfalls are running $11-13 Billion per year and state debt per citizen is nearly as bad as California's.

    Does this sound like a well-run state?

    I happen to like Texas, and the independent spitit of its citizens a LOT. But I also recongnize financial mismanagement when I see it.

    -Gary
     
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    Texas has always been over run with illegal aliens, and it doesn't help when the feds won't do their job, and want to sue anybody that tries to do it for them

    And the food stamp thing is caused a lot by the illegals

    Anyway we need somebody to do the work Americans sure don't seem to want to do anything too hard
     
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