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California falls in line

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  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    This information just released by the California Outdoor Heritage Alliance (COHA).

    Earlier today, the California State Senate held a press conference, at the State Capitol, announcing an aggressive package of new bills that include measures to ban the possession of magazines holding more than ten rounds, require individuals to surrender ...all banned magazines to the government, require gun and ammunition registration, and ban the sale of rifles that have a detachable magazine.

    During the press conference, President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg made it very clear that the Senate's package of gun control legislation is a high priority for him and expressed confidence in passing the measures out of the Senate. President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg also wants to pass these gun bills as quickly as possible. Given the Democrats supermajority in the Assembly and the Senate, it is possible for these bills to pass as an urgency package and become law in a few short months.
     
  2. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Aw, gee the boyz in East L.A. won't have enough firepower now.

    Insanity: the act of doing something repeatedly ove ane over and expecting different results.

    I like chicago, has to be safe there since guns are illegal.

    HM
     
  3. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Leadership? Here my friends, is leadership! How foresightful! A genius at least. Next year they're planning on adding pack dogs! Hilarious!

    Bob Falfa
     
  4. wireguy

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    State lawmakers propose tough gun laws
    Wyatt Buchanan
    Updated 10:39 pm, Thursday, February 7, 2013

    Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is flanked by state Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco (second from left), and San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee as he discusses public officials' support for legislative ideas to restrict guns and ammunition in California. Photo: Rich Pedroncelli, Associated Press
    Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is flanked by state Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco (second from left), and San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee as he discusses public officials' support for legislative ideas to restrict guns and ammunition in California. Photo: Rich Pedroncelli, Associated Press



    Sacramento --

    California would significantly restrict gun use and ownership, including major new bans on ammunition magazines, under dozens of new proposed regulations that would cement the state's status of having the strictest gun-control laws in the United States.

    The magnitude of restrictions introduced by Democrats is greater than gun-rights advocates say they have ever seen at one time and puts the debate in California in the forefront, even as Congress considers a number of gun laws. The drive for tougher regulations in California also highlights the relative weakness of the gun lobby and gun manufacturers in the state.

    Restrictions would include a ban on possession of all high-capacity magazines. Such magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition and that were purchased before the state banned them in 2000 are currently legal.

    Also, lawmakers proposed a ban on the sale of any long gun with a detachable magazine, classifying such guns as assault weapons.
    'Exploiting the fine print'

    State lawmakers announced those proposals at a news conference Thursday, along with plans to impose stricter certification requirements for handgun ownership and a requirement that all guns in the state be registered, not just handguns as is required now. Other recent proposals include a tax on ammunition and requiring that gun owners acquire liability insurance.

    The gun industry "is very adept at exploiting the fine print and finding ways to get around the letter of the law," said state Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento. "The time is now to close those loopholes in the circulation, in regulation and in the education relating to guns and to gun ownership."

    He said he acknowledged the argument that new restrictions won't stop gun violence in neighborhoods, but he said they would save some lives.

    "If we can save lives, we must act to do so," Steinberg said.

    Lawmakers were joined by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, both Democrats, and public safety officials from around the state.
    Audible evidence

    Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus played a recording of dozens and dozens of gunshots fired in rapid succession over just a few seconds at 11 p.m. at Stege Avenue and Cutting Boulevard that were picked up by the city's gunfire recording system soon after it was put in place.

    "I live a mile away from that intersection, so I can tell you this is a quality-of-life issue, even when someone isn't struck by one of those rounds," Magnus said.

    Not all of the measures announced Thursday have been put in bill form, but they and other recent proposals include:

    -- Requiring all handgun owners to obtain an annual safety certificate akin to that required for obtaining a concealed weapons permit, which requires holders to take hours-long courses in gun use and safety.

    -- Barring the loaning or sale of a firearm between people who know each other personally.

    -- Requiring gun owners to purchase insurance to cover the cost of any damage that could result from use of a firearm.

    -- A 5-cent tax on each bullet purchased, with the money to be spent on either policing in high-crime areas or mental-illness screening and treatment for children.

    -- Requirements for ammunition sellers to be registered and sales reported to state officials.

    In all, state Senate Democrats plan to introduce seven bills; while in the Assembly, 13 bills and one resolution have been introduced so far, and more may be coming. The bills contain multiple gun regulations.
    'Off the charts'

    Gun-rights advocates said the proposals are either unconstitutional or unnecessary and that there was no comparison to any past legislative session in their magnitude.

    "This is off the charts, and none of these laws that are being proposed will prevent crime or solve crime," said Sam Paredes, executive director of the Gun Owners of California. He said lawmakers should instead find ways to better fund courts and the Department of Justice to ensure that guns do not get into the hands of the mentally ill.
    Fight promised

    But even with a Democratic majority intent on new regulations, Paredes said gun owners and Second Amendment advocates would fight hard against them in the Legislature and then in the courts.

    "Nothing has gone to unify the pro-gun community, the pro-Second Amendment community more than the attacks that we are facing," he said, adding that they were the most "in the history of California and maybe the history of the United States."

    Still, lawmakers said they believe the public has given them a mandate for action.

    "In general, I think due to the recent tragedies that have happened, I think that has emboldened members to put forth bills," said Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, who is chairman of the Assembly Public Safety Committee.

    And they have law-enforcement officials pushing them forward, too. Emeryville Police Chief Ken James called the proposals "reasonable" and said they would benefit police officers.

    When officers encounter guns, he said, "that is a high-stress, high-intensity situation for us. It takes it out of us. It scares us."

    Wyatt Buchanan is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: wbuchanan@sfchronicle.com

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/State-lawmakers-propose-tough-gun-laws-4261890.php#ixzz2KQjwBnH9
     
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    "If we can save lives, we must act to do so," Steinberg said.

    I can still remember the gun control act of 1968 being justified thusly "If it saves just one life it's worth it".
     
  6. ric3677

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    If it works for guns...maybe they should try it for drugs too?

    Rick in MT
     
  7. GW22

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    Hell, I thought guns were banned in Kommiefornia 40 years ago.

    -Gary
     
  8. SBray

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    The radical liberals have their agenda; take guns from everyone! It is not just about being emotional when making decisions to rectify gun related deaths in recent months. They have a plan, and it includes making life miserable for gun owners by taxing everything associated with guns. In addition, they want to place as many restrictions and requirements as they can possibly dream up.

    Until they have accomplished these goals, they will not rest. Like a dog with a bone, they will never let go!

    I am really worried about where this country is headed with the likes of such people gaining more and more power.

    Governor Brown recently said that he felt California had enough laws on gun restrictions. He felt California had the most strict gun laws in the country. He mentioned that he is open minded when considering new ways to screen for mentally ill persons acquiring guns.

    I hope he is able to control the few liberals that are coming up with these foolish ideas.

    Steve
     
  9. darr

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    I aint turning in nothing.


    Darr
     
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