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California ammo sales

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by TEXASZEPHYR, Oct 12, 2009.

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  1. TEXASZEPHYR

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    I just read that Swarneneger(sp) signed the ammo bill, I just wondered how he is going to keep people from buying in nevada and elsewhere. What was he thinking. It could be that when they stop you to make sure that you are not bringing fruit and produce into the state (do they still do that?) They might be looking to see if yu are bringing in ammo to. Realize at this time its just handgun ammo, but as ususal thats just a start. Once the system is started it would be awfuly easy to add other types of ammo to it.

    Bob
     
  2. bigdogtx

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    "What was he thinking",,,,He WASN'T,,,,just another liberal feel good photo op,,,,but as CA goes many time so goes the rest of the country....
     
  3. gun1357

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    Maybe we should think of it as an economic diversity program. Drug dealers can add ammunition to their product line. Ron
     
  4. TEXASZEPHYR

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    Big Dog, U shudda come to Ft Worth this weekend U cudda done it without ridding the scooter couldn't you? When we start the spring shoots at Iptc I'll send you a schedule

    Bob
     
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    SACRAMENTO, CA - Before the midnight deadline, Gov. Schwarzenegger acted on 685 bills that were on his desk. He signed 456 and vetoed 229.

    One of the bills that he signed was Assembly Bill 962. It requires handgun ammunition to be kept behind the counter where customers cannot access it without assistance. It also requires gun shop owners to thumbprint people who buy handgun ammunition, as well as record their identification and provide that information to police.

    Schwarzenegger released a statement explaining why he signed the bill.

    "To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.

    This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to- face transfer of ammunition sales.

    Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.

    Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.

    Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

    As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.

    Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

    Click here for a full list of what bills the Governor signed and vetoed.
     
  6. bigdogtx

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    zephyr,,,,please do,,,,I have some floaters right now and I am having trouble hitting "all 3 targets". :( Hopefully they will be gone shortly.
     
  7. hunter870

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    .410 Taurus Judge?
     
  8. BMC

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    hunter, according to some reports coming out of Sac ammunition that can be used in both a handgun and rifle/long gun will be included in the regulated category. One report specifically stated that 22LR will be on the list because it can be shot in a handgun. This one gun (Judge) could leach shotshells right into the forbidden ammo category real quick. So based on the limited information, .410 shotshells will most likey be illegal to mail order or buy over the internet and you will have to go through all the hoops to buy it in state. Lets hope they don't realize what a Judge is capable of shooting.
     
  9. BMC

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    Cam Edwards of the NRA News reported that Wal-Mart's response is that effective next year, or when the current inventory runs out, Walmart will cease selling ammunition. I hope his source is wrong.
     
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    Cabelas has said the same thing.......They are going to take the ammo that was going to CA and redistribute it to 2nd amendment friendly states.

    Boycott CA LEO's Starve em out

    "BE NICE"
     
  11. dverna

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    Can you provide a link to Cabelas' decision?

    Thanks,

    Don Verna
     
  12. Charles.F.Phillips

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    So it begins...
     
  13. mike b.

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    BMC, The Judge is illegal in Ca. anyway, so I doubt they can put .410 on a list for a non-existent firearm. But who knows....I'm stockpiling handgun components now !
     
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    The sad thing is there are some fools that think politics and hunting and shooting are not related. They don't see the threat from the left to our second amendment and our sport. There is NOTHING more dangerous to freedom in America that a liberal. NOTHING. Not just the second amendment, but ALL FREEDOMS. I can't stomach liberals anymore. They make me sick. Their brains are diseased. But every year their power grows and our freedoms shrink. I don't see it ending until there is nothing left of our country and our constitution.
     
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    Do the people in Comifornia have to finger print themselves if they reload?
     
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    While this law has been signed, it does not take effect until Feb. 1, 2011. It will take some time for retail stores to set up logbooks and the overhead to support this law. So plenty of time to adjust inventories or move to a more logical part of the world.
     
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    They want to treat anyone that enjoys shooting like they are a criminal. Because in the mind of a liberal anyone that shoots is a criminal. Anyone that owns a gun is a criminal. The pussification of America.
     
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    Dverna....

    Here's the link.....


    http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m9d24-Cabelas-No-more-ammunition-for-California


    "BE NICE"
     
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    To: Cabela's California Customers
    From: Cabela's Communications
    Subject: California Assembly Bill 962
    Date: Sept. 22, 2009

    <em>"We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products."</em>

    On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote.

    Among other regulations, AB 962 would:


    • Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition.
    • Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a
    manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a
    vendor or employee.
    • Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a
    face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide
    evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee.


    That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes:


    • The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee.
    • The date of the sale or other transaction.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the
    state in which it was issued.
    • The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's signature.
    • The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number.
    • The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.


    The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law.

    If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit
    Link

    We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California.
     
  20. BMC

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    Mike, one of the problems/confusions as it stands now is the bill doesn't say CA-legal firearms, it simply states handguns, etc in general. I'm sure there will be much clarification on what falls into what category as time goes on, this is of course if the judicial process to squash this bill fails, which we hope will not be the case.
     
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