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California Ammo law and Wal-Mart

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by omgb, Oct 18, 2009.

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  1. omgb

    omgb Well-Known Member

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    I just returned from my weekly trip to Wal-Mart. This time i was buying Rem field loads (16 GA 1oz. #6) for $5.15 per box. I bought 10 boxes...more than enough for upland season and a whole bunch of practice. I also bought a few 4 packs of 20 ga target loads. ($21 per 4 pack) That's the god news. The bad news is that long before Jan 20012 Wal-Mart will stop selling ammo. They have no intention of shouldering the burden of the new regs and the fines that will be levied for simple mistakes. I got this from a department head. I really hate the idiots who run this F'n state. What a mess.Without WM, shell prices are really going to climb. Estates at the club are $7.00 a box. Not much better at Big 5. Fellow Californians, we are screwed.
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

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    You can put part of the blame on the card carrying Democrat gunowners there who are in lockstep with their liberal masters. We've seen some of their ilk on this very board.
     
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    I continue to be amazed at Calif. legislators including the Gov. they just keep driving business out of their state Nev. will most likley put amo shops right next to the casinos on the various state lines.

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  4. BMC

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    I found out about WM stopping the sale of ammuntion by the end of next year and have decided that every payday I'll buy two flats until they stop selling it. $4 a box beats the hell out of $7-8 a box.
     
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    When I was very young guys used to sell cigarettes, out of the trunk of their cars, wasn't legal and some went to jail....

    Does the CA. law allow you to go, say to Nevada, and buy a large amount of ammo and then bring it back to CA.?
     
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    Socialism sucks.
     
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    Again, the supreme court is about to decide if the second ammendment applies at state level. Now we the commoners would say of course it does, but we are talking law here not common sense. The second ammendment has never been officially, legally incorporated to the states. Given that there is an extremely high liklihood that they will find that it does apply to the states, because to find otherwise would be to go against their own recent decision that it is an individual right, all these stinking death-by-a-thousand-cuts- laws will become un-constitutional and very easy to shut down in court. Stand by, because this story is far from over and may have a very good ending.
     
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    Not to stir up any arguments, and NOT saying this is ok at any degree, whoever proposed & signed the bill is an enemy & an idiot, but lets keep the record straight, this particular new law is about handgun ammo only.

    Shotgun ammo are not subject to the new law.

    Why Walmart would stop selling ALL ammo because of it?
     
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    "COMMON SENSE IS NOT VERY COMMON!" Fred
     
  11. Charles.F.Phillips

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    Brian,

    <i>"...put part of the blame on the card carrying Democrat gunowners..."</i>


    Sorry, but Republicans have been just as detrimental to our Constitutional liberties as Democrats. Modern-day liberals and conservatives have become caricatures of the founding philosophies their ideals were based on.

    If you truly believe in liberty, then study Classical Liberalism and join the Libertarian Party.

    R/s,<br />
    Charlie

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  12. BMC

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    Steve, the comments stated by the NRA and a WM corporate person were summed up by the fact they don't want to tread down the path of paperwork that will be required by the state or risk another lawsuit from some minimum-wage-earning sporting goods department employee not following all of the necessary requirements and costing the company another lawsuit like the one that caused them to stop selling guns in California. Plan and simple, they don't want to deal with the bullshit, the money they make off ammo probably isn't worth the risk. Which sucks in the end because it will most likely be the demise of my trapshooting fun, at least at the level I currently shoot at.
     
  13. Charles.F.Phillips

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    BMC,

    I know it's cold comfort, but have you thought about reloading? I haven't heard anyone say that reloading supplies are included in the new law, so while it is a time time-intensive, you will still have a way to get quality ammo at WalMart prices.

    R/s,<br />
    Charlie

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  14. Brian in Oregon

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    Charlie, quote: <i>"Sorry, but Republicans have been just as detrimental to our Constitutional liberties as Democrats. Modern-day liberals and conservatives have become caricatures of the founding philosophies their ideals were based on.<br>
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    If you truly believe in liberty, then study Classical Liberalism and join the Libertarian Party."</i><br>
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    The RINOs can be just as bad as the Democrats. The current Commiefornia governor is a classic example. So is John McCain. In fact, gun control would be a dead issue were it not for the Republicans who aid and abet the anti-gun liberals. I was dismayed when I counted up how many Republicans voted for the 1994 AWB. Far too many. I almost quit the GOP right then and there, and vowed to start voting third party if an anti-gun Republican ran for office.<br>
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    I have voted Libertarian when the choice was between an anti-gun Democrat and an anti-gun RINO. But all in all the Libertarians are having a hard time getting elected even dog catcher because of some of their stances. Like unrestricted heroin, and replacing income taxes with a 47% sales tax (no typo), and free (open) immigration.
     
  15. Charles.F.Phillips

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    NHSC,

    <i>"This is an outright lie. Back it up or retract it."</i>

    My, my! Aren't we demanding?

    You present NRA ratings as proof that Republicans are defending our freedom? You are neglecting a lot of things such as the Patriot Act. During the Bush years, the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments took a heavy beating and yet Republicans were either in on it or did nothing to stop it.

    President Bush, through the use of signing statements, quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws, asserting that he had the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicted with his interpretation of the Constitution.

    What about Talon, Guardian and Carnivore?

    <i>Most</i> Republicans are with us on our favorite issue <i>most of the time,</i> but they are fully complicit in may other civil rights violations. Wasn't that a Republican governor that signed the California ammo law?

    <i>They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty, nor safety.</i>

    So many gun owners quote Benjamin Franklin's wonderful words, but only think in terms of the Second Amendment. It's time to apply that quote to the entire Constitution...

    R/s,<br />
    Charlie

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    We have a two party system like it or not. After every election one of those two parties will be in charge. One of those two parties has completely abandoned the constitution and are more closely aligned with fascism or communism in their approach to government and our liberties. What freedom loving conservatives need to do is purge the party of liberal and moderate Republicans. We all know who they are. They don't all need to go. Don't punish the conservatives in the party with the liberals and moderates (also liberals). We are on the verge of losing everything.
     
  17. Charles.F.Phillips

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    Brian,

    I'm glad you're of an open mind! Although I disagree with conservatives on several issues, there's a big difference between being a principled conservative and being a party hack, which is how I see the majority of Republicans.

    <i>"But all in all the Libertarians are having a hard time getting elected even dog catcher because of some of their stances."</i>

    There is truth to that for those who truly disagree with us. However, there are many who agree with us, but are afraid of voting for someone they think will never win. That's a shame - I think that the vast majority of conservatives would have been much more happy to get out and vote for Barr than McCain if only they had given him a chance to win them over.

    <i>"Like unrestricted heroin, and replacing income taxes with a 47% sales tax (no typo), and free (open) immigration."</i>

    I believe every adult has the right to self destruct in the manner of their own choosing as long as they don't interfere with my rights or endanger me.

    The Fair Tax rate was going to be 23% if memory serves - add that to Social Security taxes and it comes out much lower than what most of us pay for income tax and all of the myriad fees and taxes we currently pay.

    I have no problem with Little Brown Brother coming here to enjoy the good life as long as he pays all of the same taxes that I do and respects the laws of our nation. Here in Northern Virginia, we have the highest number of Hispanic immigrants of any state east of the Mississippi. MS-13 is here and they need to be wiped out, but I have no problem with these people otherwise.

    R/s,<br />
    Charlie

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  18. Charles.F.Phillips

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    likes-to-shoot,

    I'm glad to see that your Congresscritters rate well with the NRA! Just please remember that there's a lot more to freedom that just the 2nd Amendment (though it's a hell of a good start! :).

    R/s,<br />
    Charlie

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  19. highflyer

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    There is not a freedom guaranteed by the constitution that is not under attack by the left. The only two freedoms they believe in are not in the constitution, the freedom to take drugs (other than those contained cigarettes) and the freedom to kill babies in the womb. I don't really care about those two freedoms. I do care about the rest, the ones that are in the constitution. Those pesky ones, like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, the freedom to own firearms, freedom of assembly, the right to private property, freedom from an oppressive government. The freedom to live and not have the government regulate your every action every day.
     
  20. BMC

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    Charles, reloading products are part of the new bill, but that won't necessarily make them unobtainable as I have always purchased what I needed locally. Based on the last round of materials I purchased I calculated my reloads were costing me just over $4 a box. I can suspect that if this deal ends up going into effect that reloading supplies will probably increase in cost due to greatly increased demand at both the manufacturing and retail level. In the big picture, reloading may end being the more affordable option. We'll have to wait and see.
     
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