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Cali: ALL semiauto w/detach mag will be AWs

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    http://www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_23858492/gun-control-bills-advance-sacramento

    Gun-control bills advance in Sacramento

    By Josh Richman<br>
    MediaNews Group<br>
    Posted: 08/14/2013 01:01:17 AM PDT<br>

    SACRAMENTO -- A package of bills that would once again give California the nation's toughest gun-control laws passed a key legislative hurdle Tuesday, setting up a white-hot Capitol showdown.

    The Assembly Committee on Public Safety hearing offered a preview of that battle, as dozens of gun-control advocates -- including some who have lost loved ones to violent crime -- faced off against gun-rights supporters who believe that a basic freedom is threatened.

    "This entire package is not focused on trying to prohibit or limit law-abiding citizens from having guns," state Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, told the committee. "It seeks to close loopholes that were never supposed to exist."

    But National Rifle Association lobbyist Ed Worley scoffed at that notion. "We're not looking at a loophole, but rather a vast expansion of government control over a constitutional right," he said. By the hearing's end, the committee had voted along party lines to approve bills that would:

    * add all semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines to the state's list of banned assault weapons;<br>
    * ban owning any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, including existing ones;<br>
    * ban bullet buttons that allow fast swapping of rifle magazines;<br>
    * require long-gun buyers to pass a written safety test; and<br>
    * add more crimes to the list of those that would bar someone from carrying a firearm.

    The bills, already passed by the state Senate, are moving inexorably closer to floor votes and the governor's desk.

    Tuesday's votes followed similar actions Monday in the Senate Appropriations Committee, which voted to approve an Assembly bill aimed at prohibiting firearms in homes where any resident is legally barred from owning one, unless they're locked up or carried by a lawful owner.

    Tuesday's Assembly committee debate over Steinberg's SB374, which would ban semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, was particularly heated.

    The committee approved the bill 4-2.

    Craig DeLuz, lobbyist for the California Association of Federal Firearms Licensees, spoke against SB 683, which would extend the state's safety-certificate requirement for handguns to long guns as well. Bill author Marty Block, D-San Diego, said 80 percent of the safety test would be the same for handguns and long guns, so state staffers determined it wouldn't be cost-effective to create two different tests.

    The bill passed 4-0.

    State Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, advocated for SB 396, her bill to criminalize possession of all high-capacity magazines even if they predate the state's 2000 ban or were made with do-it-yourself kits. Such magazines "have no place in civil society," she said.

    She said giving owners a year of advance notice before the ban takes effect "as well as giving them options to sell their magazines outside California, sell them to a licensed dealer, destroy them or hand them over to police "should be enough to sidestep any potential lawsuits challenging the ban's constitutionality."

    Tom Pedersen, lobbyist for the California Rifle and Pistol Association, argued that "criminals do not follow the law, so the bill will do nothing to curb violence."

    The committee approved the bill 4-2.

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    Let's look at that again....

    * add all semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines to the state's list of banned assault weapons

    That means clearly sporting Browning BAR, Remington 74/7400, Winchester 100 (and antique Winchester semi-autos), Ruger 10-22, and any similar semi-auto sporting rifle with a detachable mag are now "assault weapons".

    Many of us warned this was the ultimate goal - a ban on all semi-autos using detachable magazines - under the guise of "assault weapons".

    Many Fudds and liberal lackey bootlickers claimed that was nonsense. Worse, some advocated for such bans, helping increment anti-gun laws until the final slice of the pie will now be taken.

    Well the chickens have come home to roost. We have been proven right. They have been proven to be fools.

    This bill will likely pass because the Dems hold both houses and the governor is a moonbat.

    Are some of you Fudds and liberal lackey bootlickers going to wake up and smell the coffee now? Or continue in your delusional dream land that your guns (or ammo) will never be in jeopardy?
     
  2. clayscoach

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    I left Kali last July after living there since1955 for just the reason stated above!
     
  3. wireguy

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    California is quickly degenerating into a land of lawless thugs who wear badges, uniforms and guns, and lawless thugs who wear sharply pressed suits.It's time to get out.
     
  4. 22hornet

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    The bill also includes bans on mail order and internet purchases of all ammo.
    Today, the witch Pelosi stated she wants to make CA a sanctuary state for illegals. We are circling the drain folks. Get out while you can. I've gotta go 4 more years before we can escape. Pray for us!
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    When the SKS was declared an AW a couple of years after the Cali ban went through, officials allowed owners to register them.

    Then, the anti's went to court and said no grandfather clause existed in the law.

    So those who registered to comply with the law had to surrender their SKSs.

    Those who disobeyed tyranny and refused to register still have them.

    So, I wonder if there will be a grandfather clause or if people are going to have to surrender their sporting rifles?

    Or if there will be mass non-compliance? It's estimated only 20% of gun owners registered their AWs. That means Cali.gov has lost control of 80% of them by making the law too tough, essentially taking them off the books there forever.
     
  6. flashmax

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    The article talks about expanding the list of crimes that make one ineligible to owan guns. Hmmm. Larry Niven in his Known Space books postulated extreme success with organ transplants and then a shortage of organ donors. His series has this outcome;

    'On Earth, the problem led to a repressive society almost unrecognizable by today's standards. Since the average citizens wished to extend their lives, the world government sought to increase the supply by using condemned criminals to supply the organ banks. When this failed to meet the demand, citizens would vote for the death penalty for more and more trivial crimes. First violent crimes, then theft, tax evasion, false advertising, and even traffic violations became punishable by the organ banks. This failed to solve the problem, as once the death penalty was passed for a crime, people stopped committing it. This resulted in nearly every crime meriting the death penalty. Further attempts to alleviate the problem by declaring certain groups of cryogenically frozen people to be dead in law (the so-called "Freezer Bills") and harvesting their organs also proved to be unsuccessful. The freezer vaults represented a finite supply and therefore were eventually exhausted.'

    California is on the way to making a stop sign violation into a reason to remove your god given right to self protection/self defense and abrogation of your 2nd Amendment rights as guaranteed by the US Constitution. Is it yet time to revolt? Maybe not but it IS time to think seriously about your options.

    Don T
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Told ya the Lautenberg Law would set a precedent that would eventually result in other misdemeanors becoming reasons to deny Second Amendment rights.
     
  8. shannon391

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    I'd like to see Pelussy travel through east LA. without her armed detail!
     
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