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CA. Ammo Ban

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by fssberson, Jun 11, 2008.

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  1. fssberson

    fssberson Active Member

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    Just received this. Hope the copy and paste comes through. Fred

    Subject: California Senate to Consider Sweeping Restrictions on Ammunition Sales! From the NRA


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    California Senate to Consider

    Sweeping Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
    Please Contact the Members of the Senate Public Safety Committee Today!



    Assembly Bill 2062, sponsored by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), is scheduled to be considered by the Senate Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, June 17.



    AB2062 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer’s name, driver’s license, the quantity, caliber, type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. All ammunition sales in the state of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.



    Please contact the members of the Senate Public Safety Committee TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms. Contact information can be found below.



    State Senator Gloria Romero, Chair

    Phone: (916) 651-4024
    Fax: (916) 445-0485

    senator.romero@sen.ca.gov



    State Senator Bob Margett, Vice Chair

    Phone: (916) 651-4029
    Fax: (916) 324-0922



    State Senator Gilbert Cedillo

    Phone: (916) 651-4022
    Fax: (916) 327-8817

    State Senator Dave Cogdill
    Phone: (916) 651-4014
    Fax: (916) 327-3523

    State Senator Don Perata
    Phone: (916) 651-4009
    Fax: (916) 327-1997
     
  2. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    Don't they have enough problems already? Just what they need another ineffective law that they don't have the resources to enforce.
     
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure all the "Vatos" will register their 9mm stuff.

    HM
     
  4. Bomber61

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    Guys, I wrote a letter to Governor S asking him to Veto this bill if it reaches his desk and this is the e-mail I received.

    Thank you for writing me about AB 2062. I appreciate your suggestions on proposed legislation affecting our state.

    I generally do not take a position on legislation until a bill has reached my desk because it can change significantly from the time it is introduced until the time it is finalized. For the current session, the California Legislature has until August 31, 2008 to pass legislation, and I have until September 30, 2008 to sign or veto proposed bills.

    You may continue to follow this and any other bill under consideration by lawmakers at the Official California Legislative website: www.leginfo.ca.gov. You may also read my legislative messages at www.gov.ca.gov.

    Again, I appreciate your interest in California's future. An informed and engaged public is important for effective government in our state.

    Sincerely,



    Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Their you have it. We need to get on the ball with this now. Imagine a shoot with 50 shells per month!!!!!!

    Bomber
     
  5. Jennifer

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    I got your emails Gary and Fred, thanks for the reality check. When I used to live there I was used to being bombarded by this kind of thing. One never knew what brilliant idea would be put to paper next. But after being here in Idaho where we're not weighted down with a wet blanket of draconian laws (in fact, the only gun laws that have been passed here are to strengthen the 2A), it is shocking to see how fast California has declined in the 2nd Amendment category in just a few years! While no state is safe, the contrast could not be greater between here and there.

    I think it's great to write letters via snail mail and email, and make phone calls. But at this point, I believe it's time to get organized and demonstrate. Yes - actually going to a state government building and carrying well written signs and getting the media's attention. It's the only way to get the liberal legislators' attention and wake up some apathetic voters!

    It's time to make some noise, people! Good luck!

    Jen
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    And just how the hell is rationing law abiding citizens to 50 rounds a month supposed to make anyone safer from crime?<br>
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    Maybe, just maybe, some of our "weak sisters", those who think politically correct gun control is OK, will finally see the light that their shotgun sports are not above attack by liberal extremists. "Oh, they can't mean my shotgun sport." Uh, yes, they do. Here's proof.
     
  7. fssberson

    fssberson Active Member

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    Can you imagine a ban of 1st Amendment rights = 1. You can onlu speak publicly to 50 people once a month and you will be taxed. 2. You can only publish 50 newspapers monthly and there will be a tax on ink. 3. You may only pray 50 times a month, your church may only have 50 members per service monthly AND you and your church will be taxed a monthly fee. This legislation is direct gun control and seems to say that a bad guy can "only" kill 50 people a month... oh but wait, I can go to a neighboring state and buy as much ammunition as possible. The Democrats in the State of California are really stupid. This reminds me of a biblical saying: "He who troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind." Fred
     
  8. Bomber61

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    Hey Jen,

    Hope you guys are doing well. I thought of that and belive me, I will go up to Sacramento and do it if nessasary. I wounder how many people here will join me? I would like to think many.

    Bomber
     
  9. shot410ga

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    Another good reason I moved out of that rotten state.
     
  10. fssberson

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    This type of thing can happen in YOUR state where Democrats control both houses. You are not exempt from gun control in some form. Fred
     
  11. 22hornet

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    I agree with Fred. I grew up in Pennsylvania where, at one time, there were more licensed hunters than any other state. The shooting and hunting culture flourished. Look at it now. Rendell and his Philly cronies are doing their level best to force the typical Democrat "reasonable" gun legislation on my Keystone brothers and sisters.

    The politics of Pennsylvania are starting to look a lot like my adopted state of California. Hmmm...I wonder what they have in common? Oh, I know... LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!!
     
  12. Jennifer

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    Hey Bomber, no need to go to SACTO unless you guys can afford to, there's lots of CA govt. buildings in LA including a CA State building in Van Nuys across from the fire station on Sylvan where I used to work. Round up some of the boys, make up some signs and start picketing, esp. on a key date having to do with that idiotic and ILLEGAL, I might add, bill. Let the media know ahead of time. The media (even though they hate the 2A) loves the subject of the 2A right now, especially with the DC vs. Heller Supreme Court decision right around the corner.

    It's time for California gun owners to stop talking about it at the gun club and on the internet (preaching to the choir) and really get serious about stopping the flood of stupidity coming out of California legislative bodies! It's gotten so much worse since I left, it only stands to reason that it will continue to get even worse than anybody could imagine (like with gas prices)!

    Best of luck down there, you guys sure need it!

    Jennifer
     
  13. Chango2

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    Harassment Law. Very insulting. Amazing how dumb those elected officials are. I also think that perhaps some representatives ought to be invited to a shooting range and try a round of trap, bullseye or whatever and see that shooting sports are legitimate, worthwhile, and always have been. John Phillip Sousa must be rolling over in his grave.
     
  14. bobdog

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    "All ammunition sales in the state of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax."

    I thought we fought a war with Britain over a stamp tax like this. I must be mistaken.
     
  15. fssberson

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    One of the democrats on this committee lost a son to gun violence and he has as his specific agenda to do away with all guns in the world. The best way to fight this harrassment is through the courts. We need a strong U. S. Supreme Court decision on gun control with other law suits to follow. Also, a state amendment that would require all legislation dealing with fire arms to apply to law enforcement as well. Kind of like a "poison pill". Fred
     
  16. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    bobdog, no, you weren't mistaken at all. Our ancestors called it the Boston tea party but the fight was over Britain taxing gun powder to control the subjects. Hap
     
  17. highflyer

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    There are still many in the hunting and shooting community that think the left is not out to get their guns and kill their sport. They won't believe it until it is too late. If the left wins the next presidential election and gains seats in the Congress they will fill the court with socialist leftists who will want all control in Washington. Our Constitutional rights will mean less than they already do. They see the Constitution as a living breathing document meant to change with the times. Translation- it is meaningless to them.
     
  18. zap

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    This is one of many reasons we relocated from california. This state is on the cutting edge of becoming its own country as the liberal jackasses there are beyond reasoning with . Their only agenda is to find a way to tax everything. an for those things they dont think are appropriate just tax them out of existance. Im sure however that mr. jim Elliot will once again defend the state he loves so much. That is exactly why sacto gun club is a memory. weak people trying to justify everything the ignorant liberal politicians in the state decide to do. Elliott and people like him are just pawns to be mannipulated and toyed with for a while then discarded in the overall sceem of things.damn im glad i got out when i did. the state is pathetic, broke, and morally sick. Dennis
     
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