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Bullseye powder for trap?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by BuckGuru, Jul 9, 2009.

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  1. BuckGuru

    BuckGuru Member

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    I have several pounds of Bullseye powder left over from pistol loading and was thinking of using it up in trap loads. I want to load 1 ounce in STS hulls, green duster wads and Win primers, with a velocity of about 1100-1150 fps. I was wondering if anyone had tried anything close to that and if so, how were the results?

    I emailed Alliant powder and asked them about this recipe and they responded that they never tested that combination, but suggested I try 16.5 grains to start.
     
  2. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    BG, I think Neil has used it for some test loads? He may come along and share as he usually does. Hap
     
  3. Neil Winston

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    I used it - just for fun - for 7/8 ounce loads for the first shot in doubles. The wad was either a WW "Gray" or a Claybuster 4100B - they seemed about the same, and I hovered around 15 or 16 grains. The bushing was one I never used before and I'm guessing 21 or 22 (but check it). (!!)

    It worked fine as I remember, but all in all, no better (and no better fit in the hull) than Red Dot, and since I use Red Dot for most other things, and the crimps are a little better, I just used the Bullseye until it ran out and faded back to Red Dot with pink wad and a 29 bushing, a perfectly fine first-shot-in-doubles load as well.

    If I had some, I'd use it up in a 7/8 or one-ounce load and figured I was loading with free powder. I wouldn't go out and buy it, though, because simpler is always better.

    Neil
     
  4. uplate

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    Buck I have used several 8 lb. kegs with your combination of components and
    about 16 grains of Bullseye with zero problems. The older Hercules guides had data for 1 oz loads. It is not recommended for 1&1/8 oz.
     
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    I have used 17 gr with 1 1/8 shot for 10 years, no problems. WJ wad, Remington hulls, NO mag primers.
     
  6. joe kuhn

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    I used some after getting a recipe by emailing the company. This was with a green duster wad and 1 oz of shot. They worked fine. I don't remember how much powder which is why people write down what they do in a reloading log. I should do that.
     
  7. BuckGuru

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    Thanks to everyone who responded to my question.

    fred, the actual response I got from Alliant is below:

    <i>"We have not tested this combination. However, try about 16.5 to 17 grs
    and see how the crimp forms. If it is okay, then you should be good to
    go. I suspect that the crimp will dish in too much. Thanks for your
    note and let me know how it works out.


    Ben Amonette
    Consumer Service Manager
    Alliant Powder Company</i>"


    When I get around to it, I am going to try using 16 grains of Bullseye with my components for a nice wimpy load, since I am a wimpy shooter.
     
  8. Baber

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    This was primarily a pistol powder. It was great at 2.5 gr and .38 lead wadcutter. There were some problems with blowing up guns because this is a powder that you can double load easily and have a real KaBOOM... Be careful and follow loading data carefully. I have a friend who onetime picked this powder on his Grand Fathers Loading bench and by accident loaded it in some 12 gage. Blew the gun up.

    Tom
     
  9. mike campbell

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    Copyright Alliant Techsystems, 1996...

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  10. BuckGuru

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    Mike,

    thanks for the data, it should be very helpful.

    I remember seeing that chart in one of my old reloading guides that I can no longer find.
     
  11. mike campbell

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    You're welcome. A buddy of mine called once and was told to use any components he wanted, just load 1 ounce and 17 grains and only 17 grains. You can see that's supported by this data.
     
  12. RunGunIPSC

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    This is one of the finest powders I have ever used for shotgun. Fed paper,SO wad,Fed 209 primer,7/8 oz #9. Watched my kid shoot 500 rounds at skeet targets in 2 hrs time with this load. John Shima was a 1 on 1 tutor. 4500 # PSI. I spoke with the Hercules head ballistician at a Shot Show about the low PSI level & he said Bullseye acts as a slower burning powder than Red Dot in many 112 ga loads. Contact me if you wish more information on the issue.
     
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    Thanks for bringing this thread up and for some reason I didn`t see it or Bullseye didn`t come into play as it did today . Since I don`t load high velosity loads , this is worth trying in 15-16 gr of 1 oz #8 on Remington Hulls as I`m using now. I think the 15 gr of 700X is giving me 100 fps and a light recoil and I`d like to come down a bit more than that also. Plus it`s available and $10 less per 8# container. Yes , I have a scale and I`m very cautious but I will have to find the proper bushing is the 408 isn`t right I do have a 414 plus some custom ones .
     
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