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Browning Superposed Pigeon Broadway Trap 32"

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by plux001, Feb 16, 2012.

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  1. plux001

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    Really beautiful Browning Superposed Broadway Trap, Pigeon grade. Serial number 126xx S72. Difficult to find 32" untouched barrels. Choked IM over FULL. Fabulous wood...looks to be Diana grade, but I cannot document that. All original except for pad, which is a correct Browning replacement. Gun looks like it was a safe queen and rarely shot. Original gold trigger shows virtually no wear. Release is to far right. Square knob long tang. Guaranteed non-salt gun. Bluing is original and beautiful, except for usual Superposed forearm slide mark. Fitted case in mint condition included. $3500, buyer pays insured shipping.


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    Viagra for Browning lovers. Wow.
     
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    It's a pigion not a Diana value is just a tad high.
     
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    I guess my ability at the written word is not what it should be. To clarify, this is a Pigeon. The reference to "diana" was for the wood only. Back when you could order these, you could upgrade the wood. The only way to prove if this is upgraded wood is with a letter from Browning or the original box, neither of which I have. Based on my years of looking at these things, I really do believe the wood on this gun was upgraded. Just LOOK at it and you can decide for yourself. However, since I cannot say for certain, I will not represent the gun as anything but pigeon. In any event, sorry for any confusion.

    To answer the PM's I have received...yes, it has mechanical triggers. Yes, the wood is original to the gun and the wood has the serial number from the gun stamped on both pieces. No, the stock has not been cut. No, I am not looking for any trades.

    Now, as for the kind gentleman that thought it was a "tad high", I have a challenge for you. Find another gun listed on the web (pigeon, im/full, 32", guaranteed non-salt, mechanical triggers, perfect case, top condition) for less. I'll save you the time....you can't. This gun is VERY fairly priced. Just look around....

    Paul
     
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    Paul---It's a beauty---If high he said juat a tad---If I were looking it'd be sold---gL---George
     
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    Thankfully, Paul knows how to spell "pigeon."
     
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    You can take Paul's word to the bank. The buyer will not have any suprises with this gun.

    I bought a 1994 BT-99 Golden Clays from Paul and the condition it was in was exactly as he described to me on the phone. I did not quibble on the price for my deal, it was fair, and I paid him.

    Paul, if I hadn't bought a memory foam bed with the tax refund, I'd be heading East to meet you!
     
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    Paul, for the record I thought your clarification of the gun being a Pigeon grade with the possibility of the wood being Diana was quite clear. Sometimes those that want to impart criticism should first look at their self.

    For the price. Iam not sure that it is high. At one time not that many years ago a Pigeon grade was actually bringing more dollars than a Diana do to the lesser amount manufactured. Then take in consideration that this has the 32" tubes and its quite possible it is not only a fair price but underpriced.

    Now I usually don't get involved in wether an item for sale is over, under or inbetween priced but due to comment and with an specimen in this condition I felt compelled..
     
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    So was this gun stamped "Made in Belgium"????
     
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    Sportshot...only gonna take one shot at this, as I do not want such mis-information on this forum. The "B-25" guns you are referring to are actually known as "B-125", and did use a different engraving technique. Manufacturing of these commenced in 1985-1986. You will note the gun I am selling was made in 1972 and yes, it was made in Belgium, and is marked accordingly. I would suggest you purchase the Superposed book by Schwing. It will help you understand just how far out in left field you are.....

    Paul
     
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    Sure am glad you are taking good care of my BT-99. I really enjoyed that gun and am pleased you are also enjoying it. Take care!

    Paul
     
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    Sold pending funds.

    By the way George...did you ever sell that beautiful Model 12 you had listed? You had two of my sons drooling on their keyboards....

    Paul
     
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    plux001,

    That table is way too clean for a farmers table.........
     
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    Ok plux001

    I won't comment other than to say I buy lots of stuff @ 30% less than internet asking now your gun is worth more than $2450 but the local shop sold a 30" gun in 99+ original with box and card for $2400.00 last year.

    Now I have to comment something looks off with this gun. It could be the pictures but I see none of the original varnish or clear coating on the French grey metal. Is this gun a refinish. If it is it is a good one.

    Was the metal coating stripped off and if so why.

    Your gun is a Belgium produced B25 not a jap assembled gun which are now worth more due to their stupidly high list prices.
     
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    GF: I guess you don't think he sold this gun?
     
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    gf...nice try...not gonna work...troll elsewhere...
     
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    Hmmm....I have had a few:

    1. That is no Japanese gun.
    2. It looks refinished.
    3. Do an Advanced Search on Gunbroker, etc. and see what comparable guns are selling for....asking price and "sold" price are two different things....
    4. That is a Pigeon Grade with nice wood....some Pigeon guns had nice wood...that is not "Diana" wood.....

    Very nice.......if you have an old Super around, Art's can make them look almost that good.....
     
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    Not trolling just what Bangalore is saying x2. I certanly am not looking for one. Just pointing out what I have seen and it doesn't look to be an orig gun.
     
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    Wow, this has certainly been an experience. Guess I’m just an old guy that doesn’t understand. You see, I have the pleasure of shooting with some of the finest gentlemen one could ever meet. I erroneously thought the same kind of people frequented this forum. I’m going to provide a bit of history and let each of you decide if that’s the case.

    I shoot Model 12’s, and since my sons want to shoot what Dad shoots, I have a safe full of them. The Superposed was purchased for me to try doubles, and I really sucked at it. So back in the safe it went, never to see the light of day, until I put it up for sale.

    When I bought the gun, I made certain I had a three day right to inspect. Two VERY knowledgeable gunsmiths went over the gun for me, confirming it to be non-salt and original in every respect. It was suggested at that time that I have the trigger springs replaced, which of course I did. The gun has been seen by enthusiasts with hundreds of years of combined experience buying, selling and collecting fine shotguns, and all have been amazed at the condition and originality.

    When I decided to sell, I took the gun to two well-known dealers here in Ohio I am friends with, for their guidance. They both gave me essentially the same figure for what their “bottom line sell price” would be, and both offered to buy it (for less, of course). I took their “bottom line sell price” and researched the internet, which confirmed the values they gave me. I then discounted that price by $500 and included a new hard case. It was my hope that someone would purchase this gun and enjoy it as I have. I also wanted the buyer to have a nice deal and be pleased with the transaction.

    So I posted the gun for sale, and could never have predicted what was to follow. I’m told the price is too high. I’m told the gun was made in Japan. I’m told it has been refinished. And ALL of these “expert” opinions are given by individuals who have never seen the gun, other than through pictures. Now, if I’m going to question the originality of a gun, I’m going to do it based on something visually objective (wrong rib, stock, etc). I would NEVER presume to call someone out based on what I “think” is refinished, without a close personal inspection. It’s not fair, and it’s not right. I also do not question someone else’s price. If I deem it too high, I move on (and keep my mouth shut). What is “high” to one is fair to another. The last three Model 12’s I have purchased I paid $200-$300 more than what many believe was “market”. But the guns I got were near-perfect, original, beautiful trap guns. I’m delighted to this day with my purchases AND the price I paid.

    I treat everyone the way I want to be treated. I sold the gun with a three day, no questions asked, right to return. It’s only fair to the buyer that I do it that way. Yet, here I find myself tonight wasting my Saturday writing this epistle with the hope of defending what little honor I have left.

    And you want to know what REALLY frosts me??? One of the fellas that wrote some disparaging comments about the gun pm’d me (not once, TWICE) with offers to buy it. Now, I get the strategy. Say bad things to dissuade other buyers, and maybe get it for less. But it won’t work with me. I just won’t do business with people like that.

    Like I said in the beginning, I shoot with some of the finest gentlemen one could ever meet. I wish the same quality people frequented this forum.

    Paul
     
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