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Browning Inv + (Diamond vs Diana vs MIdas)

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  1. open choke

    open choke TS Member

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    I have been looking into getting some new chokes my 525 sporting came with the Midas chokes.

    The Diana and Diamond claim they will pattern better cause of the materials and finish they are made with. And the Diamond Grade are only a few bucks more that the Diana and I like the color of the metal better too.

    I did find out the Midas and Diana are made by Briley and the Diamond are made in Japan.

    I have looked at Briley and Carlson; I called Briley to get some info and when I ask for "technical info on chokes" nobody answers the phone just rings.
    And I was on Carlson's website and I didn't really see many chokes for clay sports; just replacements for the originals and some specialized hunting chokes.

    But before I go buy 3 chokes I want some opinions on the differences of the Invector Plus ones or if I should even bother.
     
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    I have been looking into getting some new chokes my 525 sporting came with the Midas chokes.

    The Diana and Diamond claim they will pattern better cause of the materials and finish they are made with. And the Diamond Grade are only a few bucks more that the Diana and I like the color of the metal better too.

    I did find out the Midas and Diana are made by Briley and the Diamond are made in Japan.

    I have looked at Briley and Carlson; I called Briley to get some info and when I ask for "technical info on chokes" nobody answers the phone just rings.
    And I was on Carlson's website and I didn't really see many chokes for clay sports; just replacements for the originals and some specialized hunting chokes.

    But before I go buy 3 chokes I want some opinions on the differences of the Invector Plus ones or if I should even bother.
     
  3. vpr80

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    I don't know if you can even get a clear answer to your question. All guns and chokes are basically unique and while some combinations might work better for one person, that really does not mean that you will get a better result in your gun.

    My first question is why are you unhappy with your current chokes? Have you put them on a pattern board and are displeased?

    Just a thought, but maybe someone would let you borrow a choke to try out before spending the money on a new set.
     
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    I don't know if you can even get a clear answer to your question. All guns and chokes are basically unique and while some combinations might work better for one person, that really does not mean that you will get a better result in your gun.

    My first question is why are you unhappy with your current chokes? Have you put them on a pattern board and are displeased?

    Just a thought, but maybe someone would let you borrow a choke to try out before spending the money on a new set.
     
  5. CalvinMD

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    I would find it hard to believe theres that much if any pattern improvement over Brileys produced tubes....and it seems like a lot of money that could be spent on shells
     
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    I would find it hard to believe theres that much if any pattern improvement over Brileys produced tubes....and it seems like a lot of money that could be spent on shells
     
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    Don't forget Teague!
     
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  9. open choke

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    I guess I'm just looking for that extra edge.

    I know every gun patterns differently and every shooter uses different loads & choke combinations.

    Let's just say forget what type of model browning it is or another gun that accepts Invector plus. What I'm asking is what makes a "improved modified midas, diana, & diamond grade different from each other if they all have the same constriction?"

    From what I have been reading on it seems like the Diana & Diamond are stainless steel and they have titanium nitrate finishes.

    The Midas is a black oxide finish. So thats dull and the other 2 are shiny. That's just by looking at it and the coating is supposed to reduce plastic buildup. My chokes seem to build up after maybe 300 rounds or so but I have no basis for comparison to see for myself.

    This is where I'm stuck
     
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    I guess I'm just looking for that extra edge.

    I know every gun patterns differently and every shooter uses different loads & choke combinations.

    Let's just say forget what type of model browning it is or another gun that accepts Invector plus. What I'm asking is what makes a "improved modified midas, diana, & diamond grade different from each other if they all have the same constriction?"

    From what I have been reading on it seems like the Diana & Diamond are stainless steel and they have titanium nitrate finishes.

    The Midas is a black oxide finish. So thats dull and the other 2 are shiny. That's just by looking at it and the coating is supposed to reduce plastic buildup. My chokes seem to build up after maybe 300 rounds or so but I have no basis for comparison to see for myself.

    This is where I'm stuck
     
  11. vpr80

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    It's not the arrow, it's the Indian. Unless you have a specific complaint with your current chokes, spend the money on a few more cases of ammo to practice and get an edge.

    I have several guns with Midas chokes and never had a problem with any of them.
     
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    It's not the arrow, it's the Indian. Unless you have a specific complaint with your current chokes, spend the money on a few more cases of ammo to practice and get an edge.

    I have several guns with Midas chokes and never had a problem with any of them.
     
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    I completely agree with open choke. I've had the exact same question and I can't find anybody that knows the answer. I got the Browning catalog hoping that the description would clarify the difference between them, but that's not the case.
     
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    I completely agree with open choke. I've had the exact same question and I can't find anybody that knows the answer. I got the Browning catalog hoping that the description would clarify the difference between them, but that's not the case.
     
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    Take a look at the Muller chokes...call them to discuss. Excellent product.

    WNCRob
     
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    Take a look at the Muller chokes...call them to discuss. Excellent product.

    WNCRob
     
  17. huntinandhotrods

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    My dad, my buddy and I all shoot xt's. My dad has all Midas grade chokes and my buddy has all Briley extended chokes and I have the Diana grade chokes. All three guns pattern about the same and all three will smoke targets if we are doing our job right. I don't see any advantage from one choke type to the other. There is nothing wrong with your midas chokes. Spend the money on shells and practice rounds.

    Huntinandhotrods

    PS. The one thing the different type of chokes help with is telling our guns apart in the gun rack. Thats the only difference.
     
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    My dad, my buddy and I all shoot xt's. My dad has all Midas grade chokes and my buddy has all Briley extended chokes and I have the Diana grade chokes. All three guns pattern about the same and all three will smoke targets if we are doing our job right. I don't see any advantage from one choke type to the other. There is nothing wrong with your midas chokes. Spend the money on shells and practice rounds.

    Huntinandhotrods

    PS. The one thing the different type of chokes help with is telling our guns apart in the gun rack. Thats the only difference.
     
  19. timb99

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    I stole these words from another thread about chokes, from BAD303, and it was specifically about Muller chokes, but can be said about anyone looking for that "edge."

    Worth repeating:

    <i>"There really is no magic choke, just as there is no magic gun."</i>
     
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    I stole these words from another thread about chokes, from BAD303, and it was specifically about Muller chokes, but can be said about anyone looking for that "edge."

    Worth repeating:

    <i>"There really is no magic choke, just as there is no magic gun."</i>
     
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