1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Brass Heads--who has 'em?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by GK Chesteron, Sep 18, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. GK Chesteron

    GK Chesteron TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    17
    Brass Heads--who has

    I'm curious---which 12 gauge shells are being marketed that have real brass heads? The promos I buy are steel(thats what a magnet tells me) and I'd like to get some good shells with the intent to reload the hulls some day. I have read here that steel head shells reload just fine, but I'd just like to know what my options are. Does anybody here know? Winchester AA? Remington STS? Federal Gold Medals? Any imports?
    Thank you!
     
  2. Quack Shot

    Quack Shot Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,003
    Premium shells with brass heads are Win AA, Rem STS and Nitro, and the Federal Gold Medals. I can't think of any others at the moment, but there may be more. Those are the most common and as far as I know, are still brass.
     
  3. GK Chesteron

    GK Chesteron TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    17
    Thanks, guys!
     
  4. phirel

    phirel TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    9,556
    I have both a brass head and a brass a--.

    Pat Ireland
     
  5. Hauxfan

    Hauxfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,076
    Pat, as long as you don't have brass knockers, you are okay in my book.......lol

    Hauxfan!
     
  6. Hauxfan

    Hauxfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,076
    Zardo, you are correcto on where the saying came from. It isn't what most people think it is.

    Hauxfan!
     
  7. JerryP

    JerryP Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,753
    When the temperature got cold enough the holes in the brass monkey would shrink and the cannon balls would roll off.
     
  8. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Messages:
    1,632
    From Wikepedia:

    It is often stated that the phrase originated from the use of a brass tray, called a "monkey", to hold cannonballs on warships in the 16th to 18th centuries. Supposedly, in very cold temperatures the "monkey" would contract, causing the balls to fall off.[4] However, nearly all historians and etymologists consider this story to be an example of folk etymology. This story has been discredited by the U.S. Department of the Navy,[5] etymologist Michael Quinion, and the Oxford English Dictionary (OED).[6]

    They give five main reasons:

    The OED does not record the term "monkey" or "brass monkey" being used in this way.

    The purported method of storage of cannonballs ("round shot") is simply false. Shot was not stored on deck continuously on the off-chance that the ship might go into battle. Indeed, decks were kept as clear as possible.

    Furthermore, such a method of storage would result in shot rolling around on deck and causing a hazard in high seas. Shot was stored on the gun or spar decks, in shot racks—longitudinal wooden planks with holes bored into them, known as shot garlands in the Royal Navy, into which round shot were inserted for ready use by the gun crew.

    Shot was not left exposed to the elements where it could rust. Such rust could lead to the ball not flying true or jamming in the barrel and exploding the gun. Indeed, gunners would attempt to remove as many imperfections as possible from the surfaces of balls.

    The physics does not stand up to scrutiny. The contraction of both balls and plate over the range of temperatures involved would not be particularly large. The effect claimed possibly could be reproduced under laboratory conditions with objects engineered to a high precision for this purpose, but it is unlikely it would ever have occurred in real life aboard a warship.
     
  9. gdbabin

    gdbabin TS Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2006
    Messages:
    2,461
    Well "shiver me timbers"--yet another myth debunked by the web.



    Guy B.
     
  10. bobdog

    bobdog Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    774
    Hey, Talk Like A Pirate Day was YESTERDAY, September 19th.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.