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I'm right-handed and strongly right eye dominant. I'm short-sighted in both eyes and my right eye is optically inferior (needs more correction).

Without glasses the image I see with my right eye is less clear than with my left, but I'm still strongly right eye dominant.

With prescription glasses the images I see with each eye is better than 20/20, but I'm still strongly right eye dominant.

Three weeks ago I contracted conjunctivitis. At first it was just in my right eye. Everything I could see with my right eye was blurred. Without glasses I was still strongly right eye dominant. With glasses I was still strongly right eye dominant.

A few days later my left eye contracted conjunctivitis as well, so my sight in both eyes was blurred. With and without glasses my right eye remained strongly dominant.

From this experience I do not believe my brain uses the clearer image in preference to the less clear one. As long as I shoot with both eyes open, my brain employs my right eye, regardless of clarity, when I point my shotguns.
 
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I'm right-handed and strongly right eye dominant. I'm short-sighted in both eyes and my right eye is optically inferior (needs more correction).

Without glasses the image I see with my right eye is less clear than with my left, but I'm still strongly right eye dominant.

With prescription glasses the images I see with each eye is better than 20/20, but I'm still strongly right eye dominant.

Three weeks ago I contracted conjunctivitis. At first it was just in my right eye. Everything I could see with my right eye was blurred. Without glasses I was still strongly right eye dominant. With glasses I was still strongly right eye dominant.

A few days later my left eye contracted conjunctivitis as well, so my sight in both eyes was blurred. With and without glasses my right eye remained strongly dominant.

From this experience I do not believe my brain uses the clearer image in preference to the less clear one. As long as I shoot with both eyes open, my brain employs my right eye, regardless of clarity, when I point my shotguns.
How did you shoot when you got conjunctivitis in the one eye and then the other? What were your scores before, during and after?
 
Optical center of lens is usually measured when looking forward. This will most likely change when mount the gun as you will be looking through a different quadrant of the lens.

I need prescription in both eyes and my left eye is dominate. Switched to shooting left handed about 18 years ago. Considering have glasses made for increased gun mount clarity. Also considering using a plano lens for non-dominate eye.

Cross firing seems to be more of an issue when shooting my high rib guns.
 
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With my new glasses on, I didn't notice my right eye was fuzzy until I closed one eye and then the other. With both eyes open, my brain picks the clearer eye automatically. I believe this is normal function.
 
There is to much BS here!

The brain will use whatever eye it pleases when it pleases!

My then 7 year old son tested nearly blind because his dominant eye had an astigmatism while his non dominant eye was 20/20.

I had listened to the blowhards saying "YOU HAVE TO USE BOTH EYES!"

I got to the point of blacking out my off lense. During a 25 bird sub event my brain made the off eye take over! Both eyes open only one lense blacked out and I was blind!

That is the brain using the eye it is going to use no matter what!

So the brain using the clearer eye for some people may work! But there is a very equal chance that the above statement is

TOTALLY BS!
 
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There is to much BS here!

The brain will use whatever eye it pleases when it pleases!

My then 7 year old son tested nearly blind because his dominant eye had an astigmatism while his non dominant eye was 20/20.

I had listened to the blowhards saying "YOU HAVE TO USE BOTH EYES!"

I got to the point of blacking out my off lense. During a 25 bird sub event my brain made the off eye take over! Both eyes open only one lense blacked out and I was blind!

That is the brain using the eye it is going to use no matter what!

So the brain using the clearer eye for some people may work! But there is a very equal chance that the above statement is

TOTALLY BS!
So there's nothing we can do to understand and help with scores? Are you continuing to shoot? Is there anything that helps you?
 
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I'm fine with people who say their experience is different from mine. When peiple say my concepts are wrong because their experience is different, I'm even ok with that because it indicates the understanding isn't large enough to include the full scope of experience. What I don't like is the name calling and for that you will be reported unless you clean it up. Will check back later.
 
I quote myself from another thread here - Not directly 'on topic' but certainly relevant.

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I was mentioned here because this is what I do for a living. I work with brain injuries and developmental problems - dyslexia being one of these, and this is where one will find issues of poor or incomplete visual dominance.

First, a bit of science and 'who's who' - this is rather important in that what most people think of when they talk of 'visual dominance' has nothing to do with the neurology involved (I believe this is what gunfitter is trying to state in his posts - but I don't wish to put words in his mouth.).

Frank Rively and I have spoken on this a bit and I think we agree, albeit it we see it from different perspectives. I work with children with developmental problems that impact their whole lives negatively - from failure in school to being a cause for delinquency and crime. Dr. Rively comes at it from helping shooters add more targets to their score. We will tell you very different things, but we hold the same understanding of the problem. In fact Dr Rively is well known for his knowledge on the optometric extension program aspect of human visual dominance, something we helped to develop.

I also work with William Padula, who is perhaps the preeminent optometrist for visual field defects commonly referred to as 'visual mid-line shift.' This is typically the result of a trauma, but may develop on its own and again, it can impact ones (visual) life immensely.

These two will be my 'phone a friends.'

I have spoken to Phil Kiner about this and I think he understands what I am about to say. Also, I have gone over this with most of the people trained in the Dan Carlise school of shooting on this as well.

Now the science...

I'll start with the controversial part - visual dominance does NOT exist in the eyes - it is a neurological function of the brain - inclusive of neuronal pathways and the perceptual aspect of the cortex, and lower portions of the brain as well. As such anything one does to deal with this issue that involves only the eyes is a symptomological treatment at best. I include a graphic of the visual pathways - this shows how information is received, transmitted, and the perceptual areas involved in the brain. It speaks nothing of how we perceive visual stimuli.



First thing to note here is that your eyes do not send a signal completely to one side of the brain or the other - the red and blue shaded areas show clearly that both eyes send a portion of the visual data to both hemispheres of the brain. The signals are 'equal' in scope, but they differ somewhat in that data they contain. For most people this is an odd thought, but if you understand the physics of how the eye works it makes perfect sense.

So, if both eyes project 'equally' to both hemispheres of the brain how can you have a 'dominant' eye? If you try to evaluate the map one might be correct to think that things in our right visual field would project to the left visual cortex - and we would be 'right eye dominant' in that situation. Reverse the parameters - with the object in the left visual field - with a projection to the right visual cortex and we would be best served to be 'left eye dominant.'

Hmmm, how then can we have visual dominance in one eye??

Now you need to look closely at the second diagram - look carefully at the back of each eye and you will see an area where the red shade and the blue shade overlap (highlighted in red boxes in the second image). This is the macula - the center of our visual fields. It has our most refined vision and it is what we rely on for our daily visual input most of the other portions of the visual field fall into what is colloquially called 'peripheral vision.' The macula provides our 'central vision' and it is really what we humans refer to when we talk about 'seeing' on a daily basis - this in fact is our source of 'daily vision.' This is what allows us to see fine detail, and is in fact what allows us to read and write.



The maculas of each eye project fully and equally to both hemispheres of the brain. Remember, this is the portion of the eye we refer to when we are talking about 'sight' and 'seeing,' it is, in fact the source of our 'best quality' vision and what we truly rely on from day to day - it also is where we gain 'visual dominance.' But, with equal projection to both hemispheres the only way one can have a visual dominance is through a neurological function within the brain itself. The eyes do not matter, the pathways do not matter - only the brain - through perception, cognition, and action on the data - determines dominance. (NOTE: I have simplified this for clarity)

When someone speaks of being 'left eye dominant' or 'right eye dominant' they are referring to the same data within the brain for each eye. The dominance comes not from the eyes, but from how the brain perceives that data and the subsequent actions upon it. An odd thought, but a certainty owing to the science involved. (a more involved discussion can be found relative to this if one searches for 'macular sparing')

From where and how do we become dominant visually?

Borrowing from Robert Pirsig the best way to explain this is through an examination of the 'Quality' of vision - in terms of cognitive perception. Essentially our brains "see" the image projected from one "eye" as being the better of the two before it (it has more 'Quality'), so it relies primarily on that image. In a highly dominant person this disparity of Quality is large and hence they rely on only one 'eye' for most if not all of their primary visual input. If the quality is low - or near equal between the two 'eyes' problems of changing or shifting dominance can occur.

Don't worry - it gets even more complicated...

There is a neurological concept of 'laterality' that enters this discussion as well. Basically it states that if you are right handed you should be ALL right sided - relying on the right hand, right ear, right foot, right eye... If not (i.e., right handed but left eye dominant for our discussion) you are at risk for dyslexia and a host of developmental concerns. Oh, and poor shooting scores...

What does this all mean??

1) If you are 'well lateralized' with the dominant eye on the same side as your trigger finger you are basically good to go.

2) If you are 'well lateralized' with the dominant eye on the opposite side as your trigger finger you are going to have problems shooting and will have to find some adaptive process to shoot well. (Think of using 'Kentucky windage' when shooting a rifle where the scope is miss-aligned).

From a neurological/developmental point of view becoming a 'switch hitter' (switch shooter?) is a BAD idea.

3) If you are 'poorly lateralized' your shooting is going to suffer for a host of reasons. Solutions for these can be simple to very complex, depending on the specific nature of the specific issue involved. This is where the misunderstandings start...

Too many people want this to be a 'one size fits all' process - never has been, never will be.

The two things I see most often are these.

First, a person who is reasonably well dominant with one eye (ideally the eye on the same side as the trigger finger) - but not perfectly so. This person will, under specific conditions flip visual dominance and start missing shots. This typically occurs with fatigue or a specific lighting situation, but many things can impact this.

Second, the person with poor visual dominance starts out with this flipping visual dominance from the get-go.

What to do??

The first thing you should do if you suffer from this type of problem is try to evaluate under what circumstances/conditions cause you to have problems? This will take some intense reflection, even questioning people you shoot with frequently who observe your shooting can help. You goal is to gather as much information as you can. With that in hand you can approach a professional for help.

I would suggest you seek a specific type of doctor - an optometrist (NOT an ophthalmologist) with experience with the 'optemetric extension program.'

Some personal observations from the shooting line.

1) Gun fit really matters - especially if you have fragile visual dominance. Quite simply, the better the gun fits you the less dominance issues can raise their ugly heads. We as Americans pay little attention to this, in Europe it is where everyone starts. (I think gunfitter, in that he is in fact a gun fitter gets his fervor from this point).

2) Beads can be your worst enemy... If you have a fragile dominance a gun with beads may hurt your shooting. As you follow the target preparing to shoot your brain has a neurological pattern it expects to follow. If this is altered (i.e., if your dominance is in a fluxing state) your brain screams for more information, and one of the things you will do is verify the barrel location - and you check the beads - and you miss the target.

This sudden need for more visual data can be the origin of a 'flinch.'

How to solve this? Well, a big part is covered in number 1 above.

3) My 'pet peeve' is the concept of "muscle memory" because it does not and cannot exist. Yes, a consistent and repeatable pattern of movement can be created, but it involves neurological pathways (which control peripheral muscles) and the brain - the muscles are just the down stream target. What occurs in a 'muscle memory' process is that the actual nerve pathways become strengthened - nerve axons enlarge, neurotransmitters increase in concentration, receptor density increases, and perhaps most importantly, myelinization of pathways increases. The net result is that the nerve pathways become 'stronger' allowing for a better control of the down-stream muscle (per my earlier comment one could say the pathway increases in it's 'Quality.')

Please do not misunderstand. This process (your 'muscle memory' - my reinforced neurological pathway) is important for being able to shoot well and consistently.

Food for thought.
 
Getting back on topic, I literally figured out yesterday that I pick up the target with both eyes open, then close my left eye (or squint) just before firing. I wonder how many people subconsciously do this.

I was shooting alone and trying to change a few things. When I purposely focused on keeping both eyes open the whole time I couldn’t hit a thing. But i assume I have been doing this for 40 years...


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Hslds, good post thanks. I like the context of good lighting, fatigue, etc as factors and the one size does not fit all concept. It's more realistic and should help with the brash responses here.

I continue to troubleshoot this for myself noticing, after a disappointing two rounds ysterday, that my brain seemed to prefer my off gun eye even without my glasses. I noticed this with a mount test without a gun.

With my off gun eye closed, I lined up with a target just fine. I stayed in the mount and simply opened my off gun eye and what I saw jumped to the right. OH MY GOSH. That's not supposed to happen. I expected my dominant eye picture (right eye) to persist and it did not.

I kept this up until the opening of my off eye did not cause a jump in what I was seeing. It took five or six trials and then it smoothed out.

There's hope.
 
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Getting back on topic, I literally figured out yesterday that I pick up the target with both eyes open, then close my left eye (or squint) just before firing. I wonder how many people subconsciously do this.

I was shooting alone and trying to change a few things. When I purposely focused on keeping both eyes open the whole time I couldn’t hit a thing. But i assume I have been doing this for 40 years...


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Excellent post and solution. Thanks.
 
So there's nothing we can do to understand and help with scores? Are you continuing to shoot? Is there anything that helps you?
Joe, I got remarried 3 years ago, still being in the honeymoon phase has effected my ability to find time to shoot.

I also moved into a 70 year old home and the needed up grades trump my shooting needs.

But yes I shoot when I can, I am a one eyed shooter that has two 100x100s, a fairly full trophy shelf and some perfect 50 jackpots.

I play the perfect 50s frequently because the three or four that I have hit just make me feel that I need to give some back, so even on days where better since says it's a waste I play that option and it is four hits because two came on days where most shooters stayed home.

Because of the weather during our AZ winter chain, there are times when I go to the line with an extra pair of glasses. The day my blacked out lense made me blind those glasses hit the deck, I shot the rest from that post without and put the extra pair on during the change, so I didn't mess with the squad timing.

I am a one eyed shooter because the attempt to open my other eye was opening up things that scared me and I already had dealt with my son's eye problems.

The bottom line is I shoot to have fun! When my shooting is in tank I start to tell my subconscious you drive, conscious you figure it out. I call that clinicing myself, but in the end whether it is two or three lost birds or twenty I know what I did wrong and the fixed mechanics have let my average climb when I have had the shooting time in. But fixing things is fun for me.

Do what you have to do to have fun. The quest for perfection to me, "TAKES ALL THE FUN AWAY!" .

Excepting that I am a one eyed shooter and having two eyed shooters telling me I can't be successful. I wish I had kept a notebook on all the blowhards that have told "to be successful you need two eyes!". That folded their tents and slithered away when I enter my 100x100s into the conversation and ask about their's?

Do what you have to do to have fun! Learning about how things work or how you work maybe how your body functions for myself and quite a few other people is well having fun. If At the end of the day you have found out (learned) this is what I am! For me that just opened the door to having more fun!

Fix what you can except what you cannot fix and go have FUN!
 
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Two years ago, I started seeing two beads and two barrels, I shoot with both eyes open. Went to the eye doctor and was told everything was fine. I was wondering if my left eye was trying to become the dominant eye.
Should you just happen to be looking at the target hard, really hard, you won't be seeing beads and barrels.
 
I quote myself from another thread here - Not directly 'on topic' but certainly relevant.

____________



I was mentioned here because this is what I do for a living. I work with brain injuries and developmental problems - dyslexia being one of these, and this is where one will find issues of poor or incomplete visual dominance.

First, a bit of science and 'who's who' - this is rather important in that what most people think of when they talk of 'visual dominance' has nothing to do with the neurology involved (I believe this is what gunfitter is trying to state in his posts - but I don't wish to put words in his mouth.).

Frank Rively and I have spoken on this a bit and I think we agree, albeit it we see it from different perspectives. I work with children with developmental problems that impact their whole lives negatively - from failure in school to being a cause for delinquency and crime. Dr. Rively comes at it from helping shooters add more targets to their score. We will tell you very different things, but we hold the same understanding of the problem. In fact Dr Rively is well known for his knowledge on the optometric extension program aspect of human visual dominance, something we helped to develop.

I also work with William Padula, who is perhaps the preeminent optometrist for visual field defects commonly referred to as 'visual mid-line shift.' This is typically the result of a trauma, but may develop on its own and again, it can impact ones (visual) life immensely.

These two will be my 'phone a friends.'

I have spoken to Phil Kiner about this and I think he understands what I am about to say. Also, I have gone over this with most of the people trained in the Dan Carlise school of shooting on this as well.

Now the science...

I'll start with the controversial part - visual dominance does NOT exist in the eyes - it is a neurological function of the brain - inclusive of neuronal pathways and the perceptual aspect of the cortex, and lower portions of the brain as well. As such anything one does to deal with this issue that involves only the eyes is a symptomological treatment at best. I include a graphic of the visual pathways - this shows how information is received, transmitted, and the perceptual areas involved in the brain. It speaks nothing of how we perceive visual stimuli.

View attachment 1450257

First thing to note here is that your eyes do not send a signal completely to one side of the brain or the other - the red and blue shaded areas show clearly that both eyes send a portion of the visual data to both hemispheres of the brain. The signals are 'equal' in scope, but they differ somewhat in that data they contain. For most people this is an odd thought, but if you understand the physics of how the eye works it makes perfect sense.

So, if both eyes project 'equally' to both hemispheres of the brain how can you have a 'dominant' eye? If you try to evaluate the map one might be correct to think that things in our right visual field would project to the left visual cortex - and we would be 'right eye dominant' in that situation. Reverse the parameters - with the object in the left visual field - with a projection to the right visual cortex and we would be best served to be 'left eye dominant.'

Hmmm, how then can we have visual dominance in one eye??

Now you need to look closely at the second diagram - look carefully at the back of each eye and you will see an area where the red shade and the blue shade overlap (highlighted in red boxes in the second image). This is the macula - the center of our visual fields. It has our most refined vision and it is what we rely on for our daily visual input most of the other portions of the visual field fall into what is colloquially called 'peripheral vision.' The macula provides our 'central vision' and it is really what we humans refer to when we talk about 'seeing' on a daily basis - this in fact is our source of 'daily vision.' This is what allows us to see fine detail, and is in fact what allows us to read and write.

View attachment 1450265

The maculas of each eye project fully and equally to both hemispheres of the brain. Remember, this is the portion of the eye we refer to when we are talking about 'sight' and 'seeing,' it is, in fact the source of our 'best quality' vision and what we truly rely on from day to day - it also is where we gain 'visual dominance.' But, with equal projection to both hemispheres the only way one can have a visual dominance is through a neurological function within the brain itself. The eyes do not matter, the pathways do not matter - only the brain - through perception, cognition, and action on the data - determines dominance. (NOTE: I have simplified this for clarity)

When someone speaks of being 'left eye dominant' or 'right eye dominant' they are referring to the same data within the brain for each eye. The dominance comes not from the eyes, but from how the brain perceives that data and the subsequent actions upon it. An odd thought, but a certainty owing to the science involved. (a more involved discussion can be found relative to this if one searches for 'macular sparing')

From where and how do we become dominant visually?

Borrowing from Robert Pirsig the best way to explain this is through an examination of the 'Quality' of vision - in terms of cognitive perception. Essentially our brains "see" the image projected from one "eye" as being the better of the two before it (it has more 'Quality'), so it relies primarily on that image. In a highly dominant person this disparity of Quality is large and hence they rely on only one 'eye' for most if not all of their primary visual input. If the quality is low - or near equal between the two 'eyes' problems of changing or shifting dominance can occur.

Don't worry - it gets even more complicated...

There is a neurological concept of 'laterality' that enters this discussion as well. Basically it states that if you are right handed you should be ALL right sided - relying on the right hand, right ear, right foot, right eye... If not (i.e., right handed but left eye dominant for our discussion) you are at risk for dyslexia and a host of developmental concerns. Oh, and poor shooting scores...

What does this all mean??

1) If you are 'well lateralized' with the dominant eye on the same side as your trigger finger you are basically good to go.

2) If you are 'well lateralized' with the dominant eye on the opposite side as your trigger finger you are going to have problems shooting and will have to find some adaptive process to shoot well. (Think of using 'Kentucky windage' when shooting a rifle where the scope is miss-aligned).

From a neurological/developmental point of view becoming a 'switch hitter' (switch shooter?) is a BAD idea.

3) If you are 'poorly lateralized' your shooting is going to suffer for a host of reasons. Solutions for these can be simple to very complex, depending on the specific nature of the specific issue involved. This is where the misunderstandings start...

Too many people want this to be a 'one size fits all' process - never has been, never will be.

The two things I see most often are these.

First, a person who is reasonably well dominant with one eye (ideally the eye on the same side as the trigger finger) - but not perfectly so. This person will, under specific conditions flip visual dominance and start missing shots. This typically occurs with fatigue or a specific lighting situation, but many things can impact this.

Second, the person with poor visual dominance starts out with this flipping visual dominance from the get-go.

What to do??

The first thing you should do if you suffer from this type of problem is try to evaluate under what circumstances/conditions cause you to have problems? This will take some intense reflection, even questioning people you shoot with frequently who observe your shooting can help. You goal is to gather as much information as you can. With that in hand you can approach a professional for help.

I would suggest you seek a specific type of doctor - an optometrist (NOT an ophthalmologist) with experience with the 'optemetric extension program.'

Some personal observations from the shooting line.

1) Gun fit really matters - especially if you have fragile visual dominance. Quite simply, the better the gun fits you the less dominance issues can raise their ugly heads. We as Americans pay little attention to this, in Europe it is where everyone starts. (I think gunfitter, in that he is in fact a gun fitter gets his fervor from this point).

2) Beads can be your worst enemy... If you have a fragile dominance a gun with beads may hurt your shooting. As you follow the target preparing to shoot your brain has a neurological pattern it expects to follow. If this is altered (i.e., if your dominance is in a fluxing state) your brain screams for more information, and one of the things you will do is verify the barrel location - and you check the beads - and you miss the target.

This sudden need for more visual data can be the origin of a 'flinch.'

How to solve this? Well, a big part is covered in number 1 above.

3) My 'pet peeve' is the concept of "muscle memory" because it does not and cannot exist. Yes, a consistent and repeatable pattern of movement can be created, but it involves neurological pathways (which control peripheral muscles) and the brain - the muscles are just the down stream target. What occurs in a 'muscle memory' process is that the actual nerve pathways become strengthened - nerve axons enlarge, neurotransmitters increase in concentration, receptor density increases, and perhaps most importantly, myelinization of pathways increases. The net result is that the nerve pathways become 'stronger' allowing for a better control of the down-stream muscle (per my earlier comment one could say the pathway increases in it's 'quality.')

Please do not misunderstand. This process (your 'muscle memory' - my reinforced neurological pathway) is important for being able to shoot well and consistently.

Food for thought.
Wow, great post HSLDS.

That is great information as to how our visual processing works.

What I would really like to know is what if at any point that the part of our brain that processes our sight can be overridden, or cut off that processing of sight by things like thought, or processing of another one of our senses at the same time.

I often wondered how our eyes can be open, but when in thought, or deep processing or concentration is on another one of our senses, that processing seems to be cut off from our central processing, even though our sight is obviously still being processed. We know this because when something is "Seen" as a danger, that sight processing instantly becomes the center of processing, and all else seems to be processed in that back burner area so to speak. Then I wonder also if peripheral and central vision is a separate process. It seems when we concentrate on one or the other, the one not being central concentration seems to fade.

I often talk about how processing occurs when driving down the road talking on a cell phone. When we listen it seems that our visual processing is put on the back burner, but when the visual processing needs to be at the front, that listening now goes to the back. When we come back to listening again, we often have to ask what was said again, if there was a long enough break, or an emergency type situation. It is also a wonder on how fast the time passes, or how we do not realize how far we traveled past familiar surroundings, without ever remembering going past them when in conversation while driving.

This has to be a common denominator as to why we do not focus on a particular bird or actually "see" it like we need to break the bird consistently. I feel that those that shoot many, many targets just simply have programmed their brain to not allow interruptions in that sight processing. Some may be gifted with acute concentration to which can be turned on like a switch when it needs to. Some may be like me and suffer from what appears to be ADD, though I have never been diagnosed. I know when I miss a target, almost always I think back to understand if I actually "seen" the target when I pulled the trigger. It almost always is the case that I did not, even if for a split second before I pulled the trigger. Those are the times where you instantly focus again on the bird and see it flying off into the sunset, and say, "I was all over that bird"! Then there are times where I never ever focused on the bird at all before I pulled the trigger. those are the times where I may as well be in the bar drinking.

I really believe that it makes a difference as to how well you want to do when you shoot. It has to be a predetermined thought before you start shooting. I get bored I think sometimes, and just show up to shoot. That never is a good day as far as scores. When you go there with a purpose, it just seems to be so easy to shoot well, and the rounds seem to fly by without even noticing. Kind of like your first 25.

I would also think this has to do something with why our brains choose a certain eye to use over the other when it has to focus in a very short time period. It may not be a matter as to which eye sees with better clarity eventually, but which eyes sees with the best clarity in that very short period, on a moving object at closer range.
 
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