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Boehner give in??Obama Predicts GOP Surrender on T

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Dec 12, 2012.

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  1. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Boehner probably caved in and sold us out.


    President Barack Obama told ABC News on Tuesday that he believed Republicans would join Democrats to extend current rates for 98 percent of earners by the end of the year.

    "I'm pretty confident that Republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage in trying to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals," Obama told Barbara Walters in an interview.

    "I don't think they'll do that," he said of Republicans forcing tax-rate increases for families earning $250,000 a year or less.

    Obama and Congress are trying to reach a deal to avert the automatic triggering of $6 trillion in tax hikes and $1.2 trillion in spending cuts that could begin on Jan. 2 via sequestration.

    Both Obama and House Speaker John Boehner have exchanged new deficit-reduction plans over the last 24 hours, sources say, but there is little indication of real progress toward a deal.

    The men also talked on Tuesday by telephone.
     
  2. wireguy

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    When you stand for nothing like the republicrat leadership it's hard to define a line you won't cross.
     
  3. drgondog

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    Boehner has a BIG hill to climb to get the rest of the House to vote for a deal that does not contain big steps toward Entitlement reform.
     
  4. CharlieAMA

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    Boehner needs to grow a pair.
     
  5. warren

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    I think that Senator Paul is right they should all vote present and let the democrats own all the tax increases, they're gonna pass anyway.

    warren
     
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    One thing we can all agree on is the fact that Americans, irregardless of their political affiliations, are tired of the "deadlocked do nothing Congress".

    The election last month was a clear referendum on the ideology of the left versus the right in America today. As such, Boehner is not in a good position to advance his agenda.

    Perhaps in four years the political climate will be different. But for now, I think the Republican Party should be looking forward to the next election with the realization that Americans have no appetite for continued deadlock.
     
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    What a wonderful country this would be if both sides continue in the direction you suggest Rick.
     
  8. John Galt

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    No, 548, deadlock is the best thing going. When bipartisanship breaks out bad things happen. Stimuluses, Dodd-Frank, tax increases, bailouts, subsidies to inefficient industries- the list goes on and on.

    To say that the election was a referendum is BS. Odummy won by less than he did the first time. The election was in reality nothing but a "continue as before" election. Nothing changed, the Dims still control the President and Senate and the Republicans still control the House.

    Only liberal trolls could think the election anything but a status quo election.
     
  9. Joe Potosky

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    We have no chips to play.

    The tax cuts expire.

    In January the democrats propose a bill that will re-instate the tax cuts for those making under X amount of dollars.

    And, the republicans will say what? No deal we want the middle class to see a $2,500 tax increase! Boehner will be lucky to have 100 supporters if he fights it.

    The upcoming debt ceiling raise vote is where we will see if Republicans can play hard ball, be willing to shut down the government, knowing they will be crucified by the major networks; every day, every night, on every talk show, over and over again.
     
  10. 548

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    Barker & Galt, I would like you two experts to tell us what the end game is.

    Let's just say Hillary gets beat in four years. That's assuming the Republicans can come up with a viable candidate this time (Jeb is predicted to run - it will be interesting to see what kind of success he will have). Is it not then time for the Democrats to adopt your do nothing philosophy? *edit* - the act of ignoring and actively standing in the way of correcting issues until circumstances suit you is the act of a coward. In my opinion.
     
  11. NMULTRARUNNER55

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    Obama won the popular vote by a small majority, hardly a referendum or a mandate.

    In addition, the Republicans kept control of the House so,using your logic 548, it seems that would also be accurate to say that the Republicans that got elected or re-elected received a referendum and a mandate from the voters.

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  12. 548

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    Rick - "People in this country have become soft, because they are no longer self sufficent and want government to care for them, cradle to grave."


    Easy for you to say, you have the benefit of retiring on a government pension, as will I.

    What about the people who have spent their lives working low wage service sector jobs with no ability to invest for retirement? Social Security was deigned for these people. And now the people who don't need Social Security want to reduce it's benefits to the people who do need it.

    Well, to take a page out of your book, go ahead and f with social security and Medicaid because if you do your party will never win another election.
     
  13. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    548, LBJ. a Democrat, was the one the started screwing up S.S. His administration mixed the S.S. funds in with the general funds. That led to all parties raiding those funds whenever easy money was needed elsewhere. Bulge.
     
  14. g7777777

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    This is logic 101

    The Democrats win if no agreement is reached big time-- the superbowl of all superbowls moving towards total socialism

    So some dufus type people think the Republicans shouldnt negotiate?

    What planent did you come from

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    Rick, you have made the assertion on more than one occasion that you retired at the rank of Captain from an unknown department.

    It is common knowledge that police officers earn a pension through various forms of public employee retirement systems depending on where they are located. So if you do not enjoy a public employee pension, you are one in a million. For you to insinuate I lack intelligence for making the assumption you are benefitting from a pension is a reflection of your ignorance, not mine.
     
  16. cubancigar2000

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    All this and nobody answered Mikes question. No I do not support Obamcare period. Notta zip
     
  17. Brian in Oregon

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    Boner is ensuring more third party defections from the GOP.

    I see no leadership in the GOP. It is a party without core values, incapable of standing for anything. Boner is merrily purging tea party members from committees because they actually stand for something.

    Disgusting.
     
  18. Brian in Oregon

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    He will when he loses the House in a couple of years from defections, unless he grows a pair and starts taking a firm stand.
     
  19. Rick Barker

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    The real issue here as we were discussing, is all people have a right to their voice in this government through their representive and are not obligated to give up their up their voice, just because the opposition holds the majority.

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  20. CharlieAMA

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    Rick-Your last sentence says it all.
     
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