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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Snooky, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Snooky

    Snooky Member

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    I want to open my fixed choke top barrel on my mx-12. Who in you guys opinion would you use? Allor, Eyster, or Wilkenson and why. I would like my bottom barrel checked for pattern. It is listed in my manual as an IC but mikes at a 14 thous. My top barrel is listed as a IM and mikes at 27 thous. I want to open it to an 18. I shoot sporting and the targets or mostly inside of 45 yards. I am not interested in screw in chokes just really good patterns within these parrameters.

    Thanks,
    Snooky
     
  2. daddiooo

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    Wilkinson....period.
     
  3. BigM-Perazzi

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    Allor....period.
     
  4. daddiooo

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    To each his own! Actually, either one is good.
     
  5. BAD 303

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    EYSTER PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. zzt

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    FWIT, I've owded barrels done by Wilkenson and Allor. I decided not to go with Eyster, because the kids are so sure of themselves they don't consistently pattern the barrels they modify.

    O f the Wil;kenson tuned barrels I've owned or patterned- no complaints.

    My current set of combo barrels was done by Allor. I asked for bunker barrel chokes for the O/U and a dedicated 27 yard handicap barrel for the unsingle. Consider this, xyz, to be three pages of unadulterated praise for the Allor tuned barrels. Absolutely, positively unbelievable.
     
  7. Harv Shell

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    +1 Allor
     
  8. Andyb

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    Look at who most of the All Americans use...that should answer your question.
     
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    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Snooky. Most guys would love your current chokes. At 30 to 40 yards you need that .027. Learn to shoot the gun as is.
     
  10. DB Bill

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    You've measured the chokes but have you shot any patterns with the barrels the way they are now?

    If you haven't, how do you know they need changing and if so, by how much?
     
  11. 4th. down

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    Wilkinson or Allor.
     
  12. cubancigar2000

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    Dont leave out Eubanks
     
  13. BigM-Perazzi

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    Andyb, and who are they???
     
  14. JLSO5

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    I had Eyster do 3 K-80 barrels and Wilkinson has done 2 and I was happy with all of them. Back 10 years ago Eyster ordered 2 sets of full length tubes from Briley for me to his specs and then tuned them when they came in and they were exceptional.
    You can't go wrong with any of the three you mentioned.
     
  15. Snooky

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    Appreciate the help guys. I shoot sporting and over the last few years sporting has evolved into a game with the majority of targets within forty yards and constantly in transition. I shoot a 391 with a Briley light mod and have never felt under choked. My Perazzi on the other hand, especially the i-mod simply destroys targets under 30 yards. Nothing but vapor left and it is a thing of beauty to see but unfortunately on a 20 yard target in the trees it is a bit much. My eyes and reflexes simply aren't what they used to be. I am not a choke changer and don't intend to start now, henceforth the fixed chokes. I have shot many a shot at pattern boards and point of impact is exactly what I want. I have no intention of counting pellets on paper all though I realize this is the only way to truly know what your gun is doing. Too many variables, that is why I said I would like the IC checked if I do decide to send it off. I know what chokes I want to shoot and was just looking for some expert advice from you guys on who was in your opinion the best to go to.

    Thanks for all of your input,
    Snooky
     
  16. zzt

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    Snooky, when you tell any of the smiths what ranges you take your targets at, they will tell you what they would do.

    Wilkinson likes to tune his barrels to throw 80% - 85% patterns (if possible) at the average distance that barrel will take targets. That means that one of your barrels is going to be tighter than the .027" you have now. You are looking for more open, so you are going to have to discuss this with him thoroughly before you commit. I would say that Tom is more of a trap specialist, and you are less likely to be happy with him than you would be with Allor.

    Kerry Allor goes for pattern evenness. He says his process moves pellets out of a hot core and more evenly distributes them. I can't tell you if this is possible all the time, but he certainly did that for the three he worked on for me. I'd suggest you talk to him specifically about his bunker profile. It may be more suitable for your application. I'll also say the finish that Kerry put on my barrels and chokes is definitely superior to my Wilkinson barrels, or the Eyster barrels I have seen.

    Eyester also goes for pattern density. He (the dad) claims that is the special radii he puts of the forcing cone/barrel and barrel/choke intersections that pulls pellets into the pattern.
     
  17. Steve W

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    If I remember correctly, all above mentioned barrel smiths will do barrel work before they change your choke constrictions. You are in for a full barrel work.

    I had that done on two sets of my MX-8 barrels, beautiful patterns, almost no holes, one of the barrel was even stated by one of the best barrel smith "A very rare, excellent pattern" of 95 or 96%.

    Well, after the expenses of exceeding the cost of an average field gun, the attached pattern paper is absolutely the best I've ever seen. However, this barrel didn't buy me any extra targets, my average stayed the same as before the barrel work.

    So, IMO, whether you like it or not, just for your question, Briley choke tube is your answer. If you really hate to change chokes, you can glue the one you like in it make it fixed choke, at least you get to choose which one works best.

    For less money, your gun will be much more versatile.
     
  18. Johnny

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    Steve W , ' "A very rare, excellent pattern" of 95 or 96%. '


    Is this one in a million pattern shot at 40yds? At sea level or on a calm Spring day on the moon?
     
  19. Steve W

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    Yes, that's what the barrel smith said. He said he rarely got this result. I sold it with the gun, the buyer loved it, he paid a small premium because the barrel was signed by the famous barrel smith.
     
  20. zzt

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    Steve W, they do "barrel work" because they want to reconfigure the choke, even if the constriction is to remain the same. They don't add metal. They remove metal in the bore so there is then enough meat in the choke area to allow them to reconfigure the choke profile.
     
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