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Be careful WHEN you buy your guns...

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Police act swiftly after gun purchasesODOT worker who'd been put on leave is mentally evaluated after buying handguns, AK-47
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    By Anita Burke
    Mail Tribune
    Concerns about an Oregon Department of Transportation employee who purchased several guns after being placed on leave prompted law enforcement across Southern Oregon to step in.

    Negotiators and a SWAT team from Medford police safely took a man — whose name wasn't released — into protective custody Monday morning in the 500 block of Effie Street, Medford police said in a news release.

    He was taken to Rogue Valley Medical Center for a mental-health evaluation.

    The man recently had been placed on administrative leave from his job and was "very disgruntled," the news release said.

    ODOT Communications Director Patrick Cooney said there were administrative, personnel matters involved that limited what the department could discuss.

    However, the state agency had reported concerns about the man to law enforcement agencies, who started monitoring him, officials said.

    "We had concerning information regarding a personnel issue and were watching the subject," Jackson County Sheriff Mike Winters said.

    In two days, the man bought a Heckler & Koch .45-caliber universal self-loading handgun, a Walther .380-caliber handgun and an AK-47 assault rifle, Medford police Lt. Bob Hansen said. All of those firearms were purchased legally, with required record checks by the Oregon State Police.

    Authorities were "extremely concerned" that the man may have been planning to retaliate against his employers, the news release said.

    "Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach," OSP Sgt. Jeff Proulx said.

    Douglas and Jackson County sheriff's departments, OSP officers based in both counties and police in Medford and Roseburg collaborated, he said.

    Medford police watched the man's home overnight, starting at about 9 p.m. Sunday, Hansen said.

    Because he was known to have weapons, police wanted to defuse the situation and ensure the man wasn't a danger to himself or others before the neighborhood awakened and people started their daily activities, Hansen said.

    Medford's hostage negotiators and SWAT team were called in at 3 a.m. Monday and arrived on the scene at about 5:45 a.m., he said.

    About a dozen officers responded. They closed the street for about an hour and evacuated three homes to protect neighbors and prevent bystanders from gathering, he said.

    After a phone conversation with negotiators, the man — who was alone in the home — agreed to come out, Hansen said.

    Police seized the recently purchased firearms, as well as another .45-caliber Heckler & Koch handgun and a 12-gauge shotgun. Police are holding the weapons for safekeeping, but no criminal charges have been filed.

    Reach reporter Anita Burke at 541-776-4485, or e-mail aburke@mailtribune.com.
     
  2. shannon391

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    unless this guy made threats, a good lawyer will tear this up.
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Apparently warrants and the Constitution are null and void in Oregon now.
     
  4. H82MIS

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    Thought police????,,this country is in deep sh!t,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
  5. J.Woolsey

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    Sorta makes you wonder, was this a good move? I wonder if the ACLU would think his Civil Rights had been violated. I have found that shopping and purchasing new vehicles was best accomplished between jobs, when I worked the construction industry. I just never had the time while working.

    Then again, he might have been planning to go postal. I wonder if threats were made or this was just an assumption of an overzealous DOT mgr, regardless from what was reported here there seems to be an illegal search and seizure problem. This could possibly result in a lawsuit Oregon may find themselves on the loosing end of. Such proactive approaches might be construed as crossing the line. Just going by what has been stated, I suppose there might have been a justified reason? I fail to see it in the report.
     
  6. Phil E

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    Article says he bought "an AK-47 assault rifle...purchased legally." I'll guess it was a civilian semi-auto AK-47 look-alike, not an assault rifle. It matters how we refer to military-look-alike rifles, the anti's have tried hard to get us all to use this "assault rifle" term generically, and we can't let this trick work. Phil
     
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    to bad law officals are not so good at picking out illegals. instead go after people who have done nothing.
     
  8. Bisi

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    Shannon391, is there such a thing as a "good lawyer"? Because I sure as hell have never meet one, any live ones anyway!
     
  9. shannon391

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    Deep down their good guys....6'
     
  10. H82MIS

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    What do you have with a lawyer buried up to his neck in sand????????



    Not enough damn sand,,,,,,,,,,,
     
  11. frostyman

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    I think Tom Cruise starred in this movie. I think it was called Minority Report, where they were the thought police and they would come arrest you. All crime was eliminated.
     
  12. xringjim

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    Seems funny to me that if the guy was on the 'up 'n up' why did it take so long for the police to talk him out of his house? Sounds like there might have been something to warrant a police call. Jim
     
  13. J.Woolsey

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    Xring read the article closely, "After a phone conversation with negotiators, the man who was alone in the home agreed to come out." No where does it tell how long negotiators had been talking to him. It does give a detailed timeline of the police activities leading up to the phone call in which the request to come out was made, and his resulting compliance. Nothing about negotiation timeline.
     
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