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BANNED WEAPONS (Proposed)

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Joe Potosky, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    The list....


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  2. Rick Barker

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    We need to see the language of the bill as well, and soon will.

    There will be language defining all other weapons not named, including guns used around WWII like the M1 carbine.
     
  3. Catpower

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    When they are done pea shooters will be on the list
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

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    That's just the NAMED firearms list.

    The features part is particularly disturbing.

    Minor alterations on common sporting firearms can instantly turn them into an "assault weapon" and make you an instant felon.

    For example, no more threaded barrels on ordinary sporting rifles like the 10-22 or handguns like the Ruger Mark III or Browning Buckmark. The S&W Model 41 target pistol cannot have a muzzle compensator. The expensive Hammerli Olympic target pistols are "assault weapons" because their five round magazine is in front of the trigger guard. Many common sporting semi-auto AND pump shotguns will be "assault weapons" because of the length of their tube magazines. The Browning Buckmark rifle, clearly a sporting rifle, is an "assault weapon" because it has a pistol grip.

    Make no mistake. This is NOT an "assault weapons" ban. It is a MAJOR GUN BAN particularly on semi-autos but also pump rifles and common sporting rifles.

    Yeah, they've made a list of 900 "sporting" guns they won't supposedly won't touch. If it's anything like the last ban, there are no handguns on it, because handguns are going to be their next target. Some handguns already are, but "low capacity" semi-autos and revolvers will be next.

    And don't forget VPC is still going after varmint and target bolt actions as being "too accurate".
     
  5. Rick Barker

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    Brian, have seen an actual copy of the bill as submitted, and if so, can you provide a link??
     
  6. wolfram

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    I didn't see my beloved M1A on the 'list' but it certainly has several of the so called evil design features - that and the fact it was/is a battle rifle.

    Crazy list based on cosmetics.
     
  7. 635 G

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    Didn't see my pocket assault rifle either

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  8. Sharp1

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    No SKS...
     
  9. Catpower

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    One of my 700 BDL's would be on the list because I put a thumb hole stock on it
     
  10. slic lee

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    Any weapon with a detachable magazine is an "ASSAULT WEAPON' AND IS BANNED.
    First words out of feinsteins mouth. There are lists floating around that are partial lists.
    Says Megan on Fox news a few minutes ago, we went from assault rifle ban to bans on almost every rifle,pistol and shotgun made in the entire world.
    You need back round check to buy ammo.
    Snuck inside one of the bans having to do with total registration of all guns not only new ones but every gun owned today by everyone must be registered and the best part is, THE ATF HAS THE RIGHT TO COME INTO YOUR HOME UNANNOUNCED TWICE A YEAR TO EXAMINE YOUR GUNS,MAKE SURE THEY ARE STORED RIGHT, CHECK YOUR AMMO COUNT IF ANYTHING IS NOT RIGHT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONFISCATE ALL GUNS AND RELATED OBJECTS UNTIL A JUDGE DECIDES IF THEY GET RETURNED OR NOT.
    THIS IS FOUND UNDER NATIONAL REGISTRATION. ONLY A PART IVE FOUND SO FAR.
    The list gets longer by add ons from governors, I dont get that.
     
  11. BT-100dc

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    Go ahead, you liberal contributors, remind us how bad it would have been if Romney was elected president. Why is it the liberal Democrats such as Feinstein, Obama, Cuomo, Biden (and the list goes on) are the real problem here? Please join the NRA, support your shooting sports, and be aware there are those who live to end your 2nd Amendment rights. At no time in history, other than now and tomorrow, are your rights in real jeopardy disguised as protecting your safety and caring about our kids. What a bunch of crap. BT100dc
     
  12. NJCOP

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    Somethin wrong with this whole damn picture! This GUY wants our guns and we should let him?
     
  13. Joe Potosky

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    The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:


    All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.


    All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.


    All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.


    All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.


    All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.


    157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this document).


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    The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:


    Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;



    Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;


    Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and


    Antique weapons.


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    The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:


    The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.

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    The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:


    Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.


    (The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.)


    Banning dangerous after-market modifications and work-arounds.


    Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.


    So-called “bullet buttons” that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition magazines, frequently used as a work-around to prohibitions on detachable magazines.



    Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a work-around to avoid prohibitions on pistol grips.



    Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.


    Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.

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    The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines currently in existence by:


    Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault weapon.


    (This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.)


    Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.


    Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.


    Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.


    Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill’s enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon
     
  14. Rick Barker

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    If you have not sent money to the NRA yet, do it now.

    You do mot have to be a member to make a donation.

    How much are your rights worth to you?
     
  15. Rick Barker

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    Joe, no mention of a national registration of existing AW as being reported?
     
  16. Brian in Oregon

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    Rick, no, not a complete bill. Because the complete bill is supposed to list 900 "exempt" firearms. Still looking.
     
  17. Rick Barker

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    I think we will see it tomorrow morning.
     
  18. blizzard

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    Joe- Didn't I see a post of yours commenting on a Fox news article testerday?

    On Fox's website?
     
  19. Pocatello

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    If threaded barrels are a no-no, doesn't that eliminate choke tubes on shotguns?
     
  20. Rick Barker

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    The threaded barrel mentioned above in Joe's thread, says semi automatic riifles and semi auto matic pistols, but not mentioned on semi auto shotguns.


    I am wondering if we will have to have a copy of the law, if passed, in our possession with our guns.
     
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