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Background check solution

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by wireguy, Apr 14, 2013.

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  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    I have an idea that might make the background check for gun sales if not palatable, at least liveable. It will still be a waste of time but if we are going to have it shoved down our throats, as it appears we are, I say put NRA in charge of it. Of course there will be many voices raised who will proclaim that this is putting the fox in charge of the hen house, but if the NRA was running the show, with NRA people and NRA equipment in an NRA building, funded by the fedgov, then NRA would be responsible for the results, which would be some real incentive to do it right. At least we might have some reason to believe that the information isn't being kept or stored. I mean NRA, if they were running the show, wouldn't sell us out and store that data anyway,.......................would they?
     
  2. rpeerless

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    What part of this don't you understand?...CONNECTICUT already has background checks for pistol permits and fingerprinting. There is a background check and a fourteen day wait period on rifles without a pistol permit.

    This did not stop Sandy Hook or the Cheshire Home Invasion.

    The libs want more and they don't understand that criminals have no regard for the law. Maybe it's because libs have regard for the laws for someone else to follow.
     
  3. RobertT

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    Indeed a practical solution but that's not what the progressives want. They ultimately want confiscation and can't succeed without first creating a permanent database of citizen ownership, controlling what is permissible and who can purchase.

    They are not concerned with criminals having guns. They are prepared to instantly make criminals out of a large percentage of the population.

    Robert
     
  4. wireguy

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    It is indeed about a permanent data base leading to confiscation. But what if we loudly and publicly offered to let NRA run it, with NRA knowing it is our full expectation that the data will be immediately dismissed; that could be very problematic for the anti gun people, to actually argue in public that the NRA is such a criminal organization that if they were in charge of it they would wholesale commit fraud for the purpose of allowing criminals to purchase guns. I suspect the public might have a bit of a problem swallowing that. Frankly I think it is stupid and short sighted for NRA not to have made the offer.
     
  5. rpeerless

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    Who is selling the gun insurance the politicians are talking about and who insures the gun clubs? There should not be a database officially.
     
  6. RobertT

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    For argument sake, Commiefornia currently keeps a permanent database of handgun purchases. Creation of a permanent federal database coupled with state databases becomes a duplication of records. The feds need to stay the hell out of it and let the second amendment stand. It is argued that Federal law supersedes State law but individual States have taken the initiative to implement restrictions that far outstrip current Federal law.

    Other than acquiring more power, what reason on earth would the politicians in D.C. possibly have for advocating against the second amendment. They want to control the citizenry from cradle to grave, bottom line.

    Sad tale, a very close personal friend who claims to be a staunch conservative refuses to be concerned about political activity's. Quote, "I'm not going to worry myself about something that hasn't yet occurred."

    This attitude seems to be the prevalent norm and is leading to the slow and certain dismantling of our country. How is sitting back and saying we'll vote the bastards out working for you? The next electorate is simply going to move on with their own agenda.

    Robert
     
  7. kiv-c

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    Outsourced gun control. Now that is a novel idea!
     
  8. rpeerless

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    I like Publius Hulduh's Constitutional ideas regarding gun control although she is probably thought of as extreme radical.
     
  9. ou.3200

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    If we are going to have background checks imposed upon us let's turn the tables on them, go for really universal background checks on everyone in the country beginning with Obama and all those in congress. Stress to them that is the only way to really know who is a danger to society and who is not. There will be immediate reaction by the libs, a hue and cry as to how unfair and ridiculous such backgrounds would be. There should be equal application of the law, why just subject gun owners to their intrusive background checks?
     
  10. Big Al 29

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    #1 It won't make it through the House if it even gets there. Boehner already said on the record that until the existing gun laws are enforced he wasn't going to do anything sent to the House regarding a new gun law.

    #2 This bill is nothing more than whats on the books already. Gun shows still have to run background checks, internet sales already have to be shipped to FFL's. I see nothing regarding gun laws thats not already on the books.

    In a way, I say let them push it through to make the sheep happy. They will think its something new and will stop kooks.

    I think its sad to listen to the Sandy Hook parents say this will actually prevent anything. the kook that took their kids would have the gun even if this pile of shit was on the books. His mother bought the guns, his mother bought the ammunition, his mother bought the magazines. She was responsible for her kid, knew he was a mental case, let him sit at home and play COD all day everyday, read books about killing people, etc...

    Why isn't she being brought talked about on CNN?
    Why isn't the push from the libs and bozo the clown talking about responsible parenting?

    Let them have this POS bill even though its a complete waste of time and money even though we have no budget and the bozo wants to push a 3 trillion dollar budget of crap onto the taxpayers.

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  11. wireguy

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    If this bill passes the government will do what I suspect they have been doing all along - keep the information and store it in a database. I have always believed we have been lied to and that the government is keeping that data. It isn't like the government to pass by such a juicy data base and given fedgov's standard of routinely lying, what they tell us and the truth are probably far removed from one another.
     
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    Well it looks like the CCRKBA is joining the RINO crowd.

    The chair of the Citizens Committee, Alan Gottlieb, told supporters in an e-mail Sunday that the group would embrace the Manchin-Toomey compromise.
     
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