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background check and fingerprint to buy ammo

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by smsnyder, Dec 19, 2012.

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  1. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    California already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, but a legislative leader proposed Tuesday that the state go further and also adopt tough new rules covering the sale of ammunition.

    State Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles), chairman of the Senate Democratic Caucus, proposed that anyone wanting to buy any kind of ammunition in California would be required to get an annual permit from the state Department of Justice, which will fingerprint and conduct a background check on the applicants. The measure, requiring a permit fee of up to $50, would be aimed at prohibiting felons and those with mental illness from buying bullets.
     
  2. tanda1

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    Wonder how State Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles), chairman of the Senate Democratic Caucus would feel about this:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,....

    .......as long as such religions, press, assembly and petitions conform to the standards, guidelines and restrictions imposed on said activities by state and federal statutes. Individuals must register and apply for a permit for each occurrence of religious expression, speech, assembly and/or petition. Additionally, unspecified fees or taxes may be imposed.



    Definition Review:
    in•fringe : Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.)
    : Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on:
     
  3. Hammer1

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    We need sperm and DNA samples to sell or distribute condoms, don't we ?

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  4. g7777777

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    The Unloader- just for your own information- most places having ammunition qualifies as a violation of that armed felon law and will be prosecuted accordingly

    The significance of this is a guy that had really two minor previous felonies- renting a house had a parole officer inspection and they found in the bedroom under the bed the brass head of a 22 cartridge between the floor boards- 3rd strike and he is out--- life in federal prison

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene

    PS_ my mandatory universal service option would solve all this bikering-
     
  5. kgp912kgp

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    You guys all know that they (the Felons) would just have their Grannys or girlfriends buy them the ammo. This is not going to stop any gangbanger or anyone from obtaining ammo.
     
  6. scooterbum

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    I say sell Kalifornia to a foreign nation, pay off our debt, and do not let Kalifornia's current lawmakers emigrate from Kalifornia.
     
  7. Nutso

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    Doen't Illinois require a FOID card to buy ammo? This proposal is nothing new.
     
  8. Joe Potosky

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    They know it won't work, but an effort to make it a hassle to own a firearm.
     
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    Having a card requiement wouldnt be that bad of a thing actually- not much different than a drivers license

    But anything that would add to the cost of shooting is what is going to end shooting

    just these companies that are now no longer going to sell firearms will run up the cost of firearms

    Regards from Iowa

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    The question we all may have to face is, what if the NRA gives up the fight on secondary means of control, that being ammo restrictions etc, In order to preserve the ability to buy Assualt Rifles.

    That my friends is something to ponder, how will you feel if it becomes difficult or encumbering to buy target shells or reloading supplies.

    Start thinking bigger, because it's all at risk, and we could become the pon, we being clay target shooters. You think the ATA and NSSA is shrinking now, just think what will happen if it becomes more difficult and much more expensive to participate. What if there restrictions an embumrances put on Gun Club memberships, closing them to the public etc.

    There is a lot at risk.
     
  11. timberfaller

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    Can we all now give the Democrats and liberals their long desired salute??

    Click heels together and rise right arm, fingers tight together and say "Zek Hile"

    They are oblivious to "History" but all claim to be educated and have numerous college degree's!!!
     
  12. slide action

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    When a government "controls" if you buy ammo--They will "control" wheter you can HAVE it on not! Anyone who trust them is a fool!
     
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    If they do all this, will gun free zone signs, start magically working?
     
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    I seem to remember back in 50s or around there that I had to sign a register to buy ammo. Anybody else remember this? Some of that time the U S Army was buying it for me.


    bill
     
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    "The measure, requiring a permit fee of up to $50, would be aimed at prohibiting felons and those with mental illness from buying bullets."

    Good luck with that mental illness thing. There a little thing called "hipa"
    You know....patients privacy rights. NOBODY will divulge a patients medical history, more specifically any mental disorder. (if they did, any GOOD lawyer would have them for lunch)


    Leave it to Kalifornia to make the first leap toward stupid.

    BTW...GREAT idea Gene...you go ahead and be the first to ask for a card to buy ammo. (NOT)
     
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    Gene idiot
     
  17. RWT

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    GENE 7777,

    "The significance of this is a guy that had really two minor previous felonies- renting a house had a parole officer inspection and they found in the bedroom under the bed the brass head of a 22 cartridge between the floor boards- 3rd strike and he is out--- life in federal prison"

    Is this true? What state was this in??

    If true bet they have hardly any criome there.
     
  18. Brian in Oregon

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    I can't believe what I am hearing.

    We lost the ability to make new machineguns so that the NRA could overturn the odious ammo purchase requirements foisted on us in the 1968 Gun Control Act, and now you want to throw that sacrifice away to get even worse requirements back?

    What other gains for gun rights are you going to throw away?
     
  19. Hap MecTweaks

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    "You guys all know that they (the Felons) would just have their Grannys or girlfriends buy them the ammo."

    May be partially fact but since when does a crook follow protocol as bestowed on law abiding subjects? The crooks will go to the source and burglarize the supply he needs or wants. Of course we'll attempt to get his fingerprints too? Big deal!!

    Just small steps for a total disarmament of law abiding subjects is what it amounts to! A dose of prevention for the next Boston Tea Party which wasn't about tea tax at all, it was about England's control of black powder!!

    Hap
     
  20. Brian in Oregon

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    This is just a first step towards putting a limit on the amount of ammo you can purchase. Those of you buying multiple flats might want to ponder that.
     
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