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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Feb 21, 2010.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    Holder admits nine Obama Dept. of Justice officials worked for terrorist detainees, offers no details
    By: Byron York
    Chief Political Correspondent
    02/19/10 3:52 PM EST
    Attorney General Eric Holder says nine Obama appointees in the Justice Department have represented or advocated for terrorist detainees before joining the Justice Department. But he does not reveal any names beyond the two officials whose work has already been publicly reported. And all the lawyers, according to Holder, are eligible to work on general detainee matters, even if there are specific parts of some cases they cannot be involved in.

    Holder's admission comes in the form of an answer to a question posed last November by Republican Sen. Charles Grassley. Noting that one Obama appointee, Principal Deputy Solicitor General Neal Katyal, formerly represented Osama bin Laden's driver, and another appointee, Jennifer Daskal, previously advocated for detainees at Human Rights Watch, Grassley asked Holder to give the Senate Judiciary Committee "the names of political appointees in your department who represent detainees or who work for organizations advocating on their behalf…the cases or projects that these appointees work with respect to detainee prior to joining the Justice Department…and the cases or projects relating to detainees that have worked on since joining the Justice Department."

    In his response, Holder has given Grassley almost nothing. He says nine Obama political appointees at the Justice Department have advocated on behalf of detainees, but did not identify any of the nine other than the two, Katyal and Daskal, whose names Grassley already knew. "To the best of our knowledge," Holder writes,

    during their employment prior to joining the government, only five of the lawyers who serve as political appointees in those components represented detainees, and four others either contributed to amicus briefs in detainee-related cases or were otherwise involved in advocacy on behalf of detainees.

    Holder says other Obama appointees, like Holder himself, came from law firms which represented detainees but did no work on behalf of the terrorist prisoners. But other than Katyal and Daskal, Holder does not reveal any names of any Obama appointees, nor does he mention the cases they worked on.

    And what are they recused from, anyway? Very little. Holder writes that Katyal has not worked on any Guantanamo detainee matters but has participated in litigation involving detainees who continue to be detained at Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan and in litigation involving [Ali Saleh Kahlah] al-Marri, who was detained on U.S. soil." As for Daskal, "she has generally worked on policy issues related to detainees," Holder writes. "Her detainee-related work has been fully consistent with advice she received from career department officials regarding her obligations."

    As for everyone else, Holder lists no names and no cases, but in a paragraph filled with modifiers, he makes it clear that all the lawyers who had advocated for detainees are free to work on general detainee matters.

    The senior Department officials referenced above, like other political appointees who are similarly situated, have recused from particular matters regarding specific detainees in which their former firms represent the detainee or another party and from decisions relating specifically to the dispositions of particular detainees represented by their former firms. These recusals pertain to decisions relating to particular matters involving specific parties who are or have been represented by their former law firms within the relevant time period. However, as noted above, these senior officials have been authorized to participate in policy and legal decisions regarding detainee matters, in particular matters regarding specific detainees whom their prior employer did not represent, and in decisions relating to the disposition of such detainees. [emphasis added]

    Finally, it is possible that there are more than nine political appointees who worked for detainees. Holder tells Grassley that he did not survey the Justice Department as a whole but instead canvassed several large offices within the organization.

    Bottom line: Holder revealed no names beyond the two already publicly known. He revealed no cases from which Justice political appointees recused themselves. The letter, which will likely be interpreted on Capitol Hill as a thumb-your-nose statement, is sure to anger Republican senators more than satisfy them

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Holder-admits-nine-Obama-Dept-of-Justice-officials-worked-for-terrorist-detainees-offers-no-details-84799487.html#ixzz0gEFIdVR7
  2. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Simply amazing. hussein will be documented as the worst in history. This story will not be swept under the rug. When the trials start, if they ever start, hussein's approval will drop even lower. The cuss is a national disgrace.
  3. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    This story deserves a bump.
  4. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The latest with one of hussein's many corrupt political snakes.

    March 12.

    "A day after Republicans on Capitol Hill said they were "deeply concerned" over news that, during his confirmation process, Attorney General Eric Holder failed to disclose work on a terrorism-related legal brief, the Justice Department revealed Friday that the problem was wider than previously known."

    "It has come to our attention that some but not all briefs submitted to the Supreme Court by or on behalf of Attorney General Holder … [were supplied] in the course of his confirmation process last year," Assistant Attorney General Ron Weich said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which vets judicial nominees. "We regret the omission."

    "The letter was accompanied by six more recently-identified briefs, only one of which was filed in a terrorism-related case.

    Some Republicans were blunt in their criticism Thursday after revelations that a single terrorism-related brief had been omitted from Holder's response to a Senate Judiciary Committee questionnaire last year.

    "Are we expected to believe that then-nominee Holder, with only a handful of Supreme Court briefs to his name, forgot about his role in one of this country’s most publicized terrorism cases?" asked Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "To me that strains credulity."

    This administration will be documented as the most corrupt, most dishonest, blatantly evil administration in country history.

    From a known tax cheat running the IRS, to the known dishonest Attorney general, to the biggest socialist in world history that liberals call their president.

    hussein and his people make slick willie and his crony's look honest. Period....

    Liberals,,,,will destroy this country.
  5. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    How's that "hope and change" working out for ya?

    "March 12, 2010 | 9:55 PM ET
    'Waste 102': The Final List

    The 102 worst ways the government is spending your tax dollars:

    102: Protecting a Michigan insect collection from other insects ($187,632)

    101: Highway beautified by fish art in Washington ($10,000)

    100: University studying hookup behavior of female college coeds in New York ($219,000)

    99: Police department getting 92 blackberries for supervisors in Rhode Island ($95,000)

    98: Upgrades to seldom-used river cruise boat in Oklahoma ($1.8 million)

    97: Precast concrete toilet buildings for Mark Twain National Forest in Montana ($462,000)

    96: University studying whether mice become disoriented when they consume alcohol in Florida ($8,408)

    95: Foreign bus wheel polishers for California ($259,000)

    94: Recovering crab pots lost at sea in Oregon ($700,000)

    93: Developing a program to develop "machine-generated humor" in Illinois ($712,883)

    92: Colorado museum where stimulus was signed (and already has $90 million in the bank) gets geothermal stimulus grant ($2.6 million)

    91: Grant to the Maine Indian Basketmakers Alliance to support the traditional arts apprenticeship program, gathering and festival ($30,000)

    90: Studying methamphetamines and the female rat sex drive in Maryland ($30,000)

    89: Studying mating decisions of cactus bugs in Florida ($325,394)

    88: Studying why deleting a gene can create sex reversal in people, but not in mice in Minnesota ($190,000)

    87: College hires director for a project on genetic control of sensory hair cell membrane channels in zebrafish in California ($327,337)

    86: New jumbo recycling bins with microchips embedded inside to track participation in Ohio ($500,000)

    85: Oregon Federal Building's "green" renovation at nearly the price of a brand new building ($133 million)

    84: Massachusetts middle school getting money to build a solar array on its roof ($150,000)

    83: Road widening that could have been millions of dollars cheaper if Lousiana hadn't opted to replace a bridge that may not have needed replacing ($60 million)

    82: Cleanup effort of a Washington nuclear waste site that already got $12 billion from the DOE ($1.9 billion)

    81: Six woodlands water taxis getting a new home in Texas ($750,000)

    80: Maryland group gets money to develop "real life" stories that underscore job and infrastructure-related research findings ($363,760)

    79: Studying social networks like Facebook in North Carolina ($498,000)

    78:18 North Carolina teacher coaches to heighten math and reading performance ($4.4 million)

    77: Retrofitting light switches with motion sensors for one company in Arizona ($800,000)

    76: Removing graffiti along 100 miles of flood-control ditches in California ($837,000)

    75: Bicycle lanes, shared lane signs and bike racks in Pennsylvania ($105,000)

    74: Privately-owned steakhouse rehabilitating its restaurant space in Missouri ($75,000)

    73: National dinner cruise boat company in Illinois outfitting vessels with surveillance systems to protect against terrorists ($1 million)

    72: Producing and transporting peanuts and peanut butter in North Carolina ($900,000)

    71: Refurnishing and delivering picnic tables in Iowa ($30,000)

    70: Digital television converter box coupon program in D.C. ($650 million)

    69: Elevating and relocating 3,000 feet of track for the Napa Valley Wine Train in California ($54 million)

    68: Hosting events for Earth Day, the summer solstice etc. in Minnesota ($50,000)

    67: Expanding ocean aquaculture in Hawaii ($99,960)

    66: Raising railroad tracks 18 inches in Oregon because the residents of one small town were tired of taking a detour around them ($4.2 million)

    65: Professors and employees of Iowa state universities voluntarily taking early retirement ($43 million)

    64: Minnesota theatre named after Che Guevara putting on "socially conscious" puppet shows ($25,000)

    63: Replacing a basketball court lighting system with a more energy efficient one in Arizona ($20,000)

    62: Repainting and adding a security camera to one bridge in Oregon ($3.5 million)

    61: Missouri bridge project that already was full-funded with state money ($8 million)

    60: New hospital parking garage in New York that will employ less people ($19.5 million)

    59: University in North Carolina studying why adults with ADHD smoke more ($400,000)

    58: Low-income housing residents in one Minnesota city receiving free laptops, WiFi and iPod Touches to "educate" them in technology ($5 million)

    57: University in California sending students to Africa to study why Africans vote they the way they do in their elections ($200,000)

    56: Researching the impact of air pollution combined with a high-fat diet on obesity development in Ohio ($225,000)

    55: Studying how male and female birds care for their offspring and how it compares to how humans care for their children in Oklahoma ($90,000)

    54: University in Pennsylvania researching fossils in Argentina (over $1 million)

    53: University in Tennessee studying how black holes form (over $1 million)

    52: University in Oklahoma sending 3 researchers to Alaska to study grandparents and how they pass on knowledge to younger generations ($1.5 million)

    51: Grant application from a Pennsylvania university for a researcher named in the Climate-gate scandal (Rep. Darrell Issa is calling on the president to freeze the grant) ($500,000)

    50: Studying the impact of global warming on wildflowers in a Colorado ghost town ($500,000)

    49: Bridge built over railroad crossing so 168 Nebraska town residents don't have to wait for the trains to pass ($7 million)

    48: Renovating an old hotel into a visitors center in Kentucky ($300,000)

    47: Removing overgrown weeds in a Rhode Island park ($250,000)

    46: Renovating 5 seldom-used ports of entry on the U.S.-Canada border in Montana ($77 million)

    45: Testing how to control private home appliances in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts from an off-site computer ($800,000)

    44: Repainting a rarely-used bridge in North Carolina ($3.1 million)

    43: Renovating a desolate Wisconsin bridge that averages 10 cars a day ($426,000)

    42: 4 new buses for New Hampshire ($2 million)

    41: Repaving a 1-mile stretch of Atlanta road that had parts of it already repaved in 2007 ($490,000)

    40: Florida beauty school tuition ($2.3 million)

    39: Extending a bike path to the Minnesota Twins stadium ($500,000)

    38: Beautification of Los Angeles' Sunset Boulevard ($1.1 million)

    37: Colorado Dragon Boat Festival ($10,000)

    36: Developing the next generation of supersonic corporate jets in Maryland that could cost $80 million dollars each ($4.7 million)

    35: New spring training facilities for the Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorado Rockies ($30 million)

    34: Demolishing 35 old laboratories in New Mexico ($212 million)

    33: Putting free WiFi, Internet kiosks and interactive history lessons in 2 Texas rest stops ($13.8 million)

    32: Replacing a single boat motor on a government boat in D.C. ($10,500)

    31: Developing the next generation of football gloves in Pennsylvania ($150,000)

    30: Pedestrian bridge to nowhere in West Virginia ($80,000)

    29: Replacing all signage on 5 miles of road in Rhode Island ($4,403,205)

    28: Installing a geothermal energy system to heat the "incredible shrinking mall" in Tennessee ($5 million)

    27: University in Minnesota studying how to get the homeless to stop smoking ($230,000)

    26: Large woody habitat rehabilitation project in Wisconsin ($16,800)

    25: Replacing escalators in the parking garage of one D.C. metro station ($4.3 million)

    24: Building an airstrip in a community most Alaskans have never even heard of ($14,707,949)

    23: Bike and pedestrian paths connecting Camden, N.J. to Philadelphia, Penn. when there's already a bridge that connects them ($23 million)

    22: Sending 10 university undergrads each year from North Carolina to Costa Rica to study the rainforests ($564,000)

    21: Road signs touting stimulus funds at work in Ohio ($1 million)

    20: Researching how paying attention improves performance of difficult tasks in Connecticut ($850,000)

    19: Kentucky Transportation Department awarding contracts to companies associated with a road contractor accused of bribing the previous state transportation secretary ($24 million)

    18: Amtrak losing $32 per passenger nationally but rewarded with windfall ($1.3 billion)

    17: Widening an Arizona interstate even though the company that won the contract has a history of tax fraud and pollution ($21.8 million)

    16: Replace existing dumbwaiters in New York ($351,807)

    15: Deer underpass in Wyoming ($1,239,693)

    14: Arizona universities examining the division of labor in ant colonies (combined $950,000)

    13: Fire station without firefighters in Nevada ($2 million)

    12: "Clown" theatrical production in Pennsylvania ($25,000)

    11: Maryland town gets money but doesn't know what to do with it ($25,000)

    10: Investing in nation-wide wind power (but majority of money has gone to foreign companies) ($2 billion)

    9: Resurfacing a tennis court in Montana ($50,000)

    8: University in Indiana studying why young men do not like to wear condoms ($221,355)

    7: Funds for Massachusetts roadway construction to companies that have defrauded taxpayers, polluted the environment and have paid tens of thousands of dollars in fines for violating workplace safety laws (millions)

    6: Sending 11 students and 4 teachers from an Arkansas university to the U.N. climate change convention in Copenhagen, using almost 54,000 lbs of carbon dioxide from air travel alone ($50,000)

    5: Storytelling festival in Utah ($15,000)

    4: Door mats to the Department of the Army in Texas ($14,675)

    3: University in New York researching young adults who drink malt liquor and smoke pot ($389,357)

    2: Solar panels for climbing gym in Colorado ($157,800)

    1: Grant for one Massachusetts university for "robobees" (miniature flying robot bees) ($2 million)
    GRAND TOTAL: $4,891,645,229"
  6. RobertT

    RobertT Well-Known Member

    Jun 27, 2006
    All that pork barrel money spent and it doesn't begin to scratch a Trillion. Let's face it, we are screwed.

  7. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    More of today's headlines;

    "Democrats Question Obama's First-Year Travel Record"

    "Obama's Job Approval Rating Sinks to All-Time Low"

    "Negatives for Pelosi, Reid, Boehner Hit Record Highs"

    How do you like them now,,liberals??????
  8. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The only thing that Obama is any good at is running the shit out of Air Force One, does a day go by where this Clown don't go someplace ..? This guy has got to be stopped and dropped ASAP ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  9. Conn. Man

    Conn. Man Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  10. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    More headlines;

    "WH Scandal May Be Criminal. GOP lawmaker says White House committed 'crime' if it offered Rep. Sestak federal job for dropping Senate bid"

    "Issa told Fox News that he is trying to give the White House an opportunity to tell its side of the story.

    "Right now, they're doing the 'I won't confirm or deny,' and for us, it leaves two possibilities," Issa said. "One is the promise of transparency in this administration is just shot. The second one is even worse, which is either Sestak is lying or the administration has done something wrong and is covering it up and they should be the first to want to clear that up even if they're not wanting to support transparency as they said they would when they came to office."
  11. H82MIS

    H82MIS TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Paladin my friend,,,do you think Hitler gave a sh!t what people thought about the "Stuff" he did???? Probably not,,,

    I really hoped I'd grow old and die before this country was taken over by the commies, but I guess I was wrong,,,,

    6 months ago I said to prepare for a revolution,,I think its closer than most people think,,
  12. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Agreed, OICU812.

    For the sake of the young, I hope this country is bigger and better than the commie/socialists in power today. I think one thing can be written in stone though. It will never be the same, and not for the good either. Political and moral decay have been around since the beginning. Political and moral decay have been accelerated to warp speed because of the last and current liberal presidents.
  13. bill1949

    bill1949 Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  14. Uncle Sam

    Uncle Sam Member

    Jan 6, 2006
    This should be the everyone's slogan for the next few elections......"IF YOUR IN.......YOUR OUT !!!!"
  15. Ljutic111

    Ljutic111 TS Member

    Jan 20, 2008
    Only 1 of the 102 is valid , the rest are all money down the drain and no one can stop it . #40 is on the top of my list . I do want to see the Beauties that the tuition is paying for !!!!!
  16. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Near but not in chicago
    Audacity, bigdogtx are you sure you didn't mean undeniabel criminal activity?
  17. Dahaub

    Dahaub Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    pale and dim I still like the liberals.:) I don't havr a problem with the crap on your list. How much was Haliburton paid during this last year? Surely you guys have that information and you know of course that pay to Haliburton is not pork it's legitimate government business----right? Thought you would agree on that. Tell me Pale and Dim how many recruits have your rants changed the minds of in their voting? How many that stayed home last time are going to go make the change this next time? Whose mind are you changing? Dan
  18. markdenis

    markdenis TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998

    If by chance hussein has not been impeached by the next election, his along with his communists staff, will probably have a zero approval rating by all Americans...not just the people on here. When that happens, we will be shed of your communist adoring ways and you will have surely changed your name and will not claim hussein as your master.

  19. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2007
    Dan, Make sure you stick around after November. But then, in your 300+ posts, only 2 were about shooting, so why would you hang around on a trap site when your really not a trap shooter.
  20. markdenis

    markdenis TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998

    Has the American people told you about the last election? Listen real close...they are telling you now.
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