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??? ATA Rules/Gun Club Certification

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  1. lbshootin

    lbshootin Active Member

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    I have lost my rules book, and I have a question..Since our only ATA shooting facility (San Diego Shotgun Sports/Miramar) has been closed, temporarily we hope..What process does a club need to follow to get their certification, if any, to hold a sanctioned ATA shoot. There are several private clubs in our county (San Diego) that have two trap fields or more. We don't have an extremely large population of ATA shooters here, probably 125 or less. The closest range that does shoot ATA matches is a couple hours North at Redlands and Triple B Clays.
    We do enjoy a once a quarter Interclub shoot, where we travel to four private clubs and one public club every three months. We shoot 100 singles, do a quick math for the daily handicap, and then shoot 100 handicap targets. Winner takes all for High Man, High Lady, and High Junior. Then at the end of the year the club with the highest overall average takes high club.
    Thanks,
    LarryB
     
  2. Beretta687EELL

    Beretta687EELL Well-Known Member

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    I believe that your fields, etc. have to be certified / inspected by your ATA delegate ... I suggest that you start there. Bill Malcolm
     
  3. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

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    Larry, you need to follow:

    "SECTION III

    REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONDUCTING A
    REGISTERED SHOOT

    A. APPLICATION TO CONDUCT A SHOOT

    Proper blank application forms, obtained from the ATA, or local State
    secretaries, should be filled out and provided to the State secretary for
    approval prior to the scheduled shoot. If there are club dues or other
    obligations to the State, these must be enclosed with applications.
    Registered league dues of $25.00 per league must be submitted to ATA
    with the appropriate league application.

    If the application is in order, the State secretary will approve and forward
    it to the ATA for the certification of registration provided that the date(s)
    requested will not conflict with the dates of a registered event and/or
    tournament granted to another club or association in close proximity. The
    question of close proximity is left to the judgment of the officials of the
    State association. State and Provincial Associations shall not unreasonably
    withhold approval of shoot dates from affiliated clubs. In the event the
    State association is unable or unwilling to decide the question of close
    proximity, the question will be referred to the ATA State/Provincial Delegate
    who has the duty to make the decision, and whose decision is final. The
    Delegate has no duty, responsibility or authority of the ATA to decide any
    shoot dates until the question of close proximity has been referred to the
    Delegate by the State/Provincial association.

    Upon receipt of the approved application form, the ATA will issue the
    registration certificate, provided all conditions of the application have
    been met. A record of the issuance of the certificate of registration will
    be kept on file in the main office of the ATA, and prior to the holding of
    the registered event and/or tournament, necessary office supplies for the
    proper recording of scores will be sent to the club or association."

    And you have to certify the machines are legal (have interrupters)

    "SECTION XIII

    STANDARDS FOR TRAPHOUSES, TARGETS, TARGET SETTING,
    GUNS AND AMMUNITION


    A. TRAP MACHINE
    A trap machine, which throws targets at an unknown angle, shall be
    used. All trap machines used to throw ATA registered targets shall be
    so manufactured, modified, or equipped as to interrupt irregularly the
    oscillation of the trap or otherwise assure the unpredictability of the
    flight of substantially all targets thrown.

    Each gun club that throws ATA registered targets must have on file in
    the ATA main offices a signed Affidavit that the trap machines used
    to throw registered targets meet the requirements of this rule. The
    State/Provincial ATA Delegate is responsible for the enforcement of
    this Rule."

    . . .which is not exactly the same as Rick's post, but means the same. You can call Kathy Key for the form to certify your traps.

    Neil
     
  4. lbshootin

    lbshootin Active Member

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    Any mention of the background??? One of our clubs shoots towards a mountain side at approx 100 yds in front of the house, the other shoots over a gully against a hillside..lb
     
  5. phirel

    phirel TS Member

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    The Gun Club certifies that the traps are legal. If a question does arise, the Delegate will investigate.

    lbshootin- Today is Saturday. With the cooperation of the State Secretary and a FAX machine, your club could be ready to hold a registered shoot next weekend.

    Pat Ireland
     
  6. Ray Brasser

    Ray Brasser Member

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    Larry -

    You have mail. I sent you the Gun Club Affidavit and the ATA Registered Shoot Application forms. These need to be completed and sent back to me before you can throw registered targets. It does not take long. I also sent you a copy of the Registered Shoot Handbook from the ATA website.

    If you have any problems opening the attachments I sent, please call me at (818) 887-0096 and I will send you copies in the mail.

    Ray Brasser
    State Secretary
     
  7. lbshootin

    lbshootin Active Member

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    Thanks much...I will talking to the Directors of two clubs this coming week...more to follow, I hope!...Larry
     
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