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Arrest in Webster V.F.Shootings

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  1. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Dawn Nguyen was a straw buyer for Spengler.

    "During an interview late on Christmas Eve, Nguyen told police she had bought the guns for personal protection and that they were stolen from her vehicle, though she never reported the guns stolen.

    The day after the shootings, Nguyen texted an off-duty Monroe County Sheriff's deputy with references to the killings. She later called the deputy and admitted she bought the guns for Spengler, police said.

    That information was consistent with a suicide note found near Spengler's body after he killed himself."

    She will end up in prison for a long time.
     
  2. 808state

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    What is considered a "combat-style flash suppressor"? Amazes me the way these journalists write these articles.
     
  3. skeet_man

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    Interesting to note that since these firearms were sold @ Gander Mtn, they would have been NY compliant (neutered). That means:

    Fixed length stock (non-collapsible)

    Was sold with a 10 round magazine MAX

    No bayonet lug

    NO Flash Suppressor. Only muzzle brakes, which need to be permanently attached to the barrel (pinned and welded). On a NY compliant gun, you cannot simply unscrew a muzzle brake and screw on a flash suppressor (or sound suppressor). You would need to cut the barrel and thread it for a flash suppressor, thus making it an "assault weapon", thus making it an illegal firearm.

    Under NY state law, using NY state's own definition, it was impossible for this to be an "assault weapon".
     
  4. Rich219

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    Like skeet_man said. If these were sold at Gander Mountain they would have a brake or a compensator, not a flash hider and would therefor not be an assault weapon. Its just the media spewing more misinformation.
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

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    A muzzle brake or compensator may LOOK like a flash hider, but they serve an entirely different purpose. And it is possible to put a compensator or muzzle brake on a barrel without threading it, using a tight fit and set screws.

    Hopefully she'll go to prison for both counts of a straw purchase.The penalty for each count is $250,000 fine and 10 years in prison. It might be difficult to make it stick, but she is technically an accessory to two murders.
     
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    And it seems her brother, if he lied about the theft issue, should go down as well as part of the conspiracy to cover up the straw purchase... Bad people do bad things.
     
  7. oldgahchamp

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    And if the Democrat District Attorney of Monroe County hadn't offered Spengler a Plea Deal, he might still be in prison.
     
  8. Brian in Oregon

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    yup, the justice system failed to protect society, just like it failed with Patrick Purdy, the Stockton schoolyard shooter. His criminal record was full of dismissed charges, plea bargains, etc., to the point where he only had misdemeanors and no felony convictions that he so richly deserved. He never should have been able to buy the semi-auto he used to gun kids down if the justice system had worked. In fact, his criminal record was so embarrassing to those in the justice system who coddled him that a judge ordered his record sealed. The media should be filing a FOIA request to unseal it, but never had the interest since "obviously" guns are the cause.
     
  9. eightbore

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    Dawn will not serve a day after her conviction, if such a conviction ever takes place. Law enforcement has no interest in actually punishing violators of gun purchase laws. The fact that she is female and of Vietnamese descent makes her untouchable in the eyes of the judicial system.
     
  10. twoatlow8

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    Eightbore,
    I believe you are wrong about that. I live Webster less than 1 minute from the killers house. Not only will she face Federal charges she will face state charges also. She will do time..... not enough as far as I am concerened.
    I think the store clerk should also be charged.
    This bitch and the perp went to the store together and he "Hand picked" the guns! In front of the clerk! The clerk had to know!
     
  11. eightbore

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    The clerk won't pull any time either, for whatever reason. Maybe he is also a "favorite of the liberals" also.
     
  12. darr

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    If they can put that dumba-s Plexico Burris in jail for accidently shooting himself surely they can put this Nguyen away for acc. to murder.

    Darr
     
  13. kcbullets

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    You let a convicted killer out of prison what do you have? A person that may kill again. There is NO rehabilitation. Blame the deaths on the system that let the freakin killer loose to do it again. It makes no difference what type of weapon!
     
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