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Are Shells Cheaper Today???

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Skeeterzx, Dec 31, 2011.

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  1. Skeeterzx

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    I was talking to my Dad about his shooting years ago. He used to run a gun club back in the early to mid 1960s. We talked about the cost of shooting and shells...what everyone shot (we're gun nuts). It got me thinking on the price of shells then and the price of shells now COMPARED to the average wage of a shooter then and now. Now, for you old timers on here, think back to what you were making for a wage in the early to mid 1960s.When you bought a box of new shells back then, what percentage of your hourly wage did that box of shells cost?(if you can remember..he,he)

    I still hope the majority of shooters are just working joes. Guys that build stuff, work hard, and have some fun shooting on the weekends. This group of folks is what this question is all about. Is it cheaper (shells wise) for a working joe to shoot today than back in the early to mid 1960s? I am very interested to hear what you guys have to say.

    Now here's the data part: This data is from the US Department of labor - Bureau of Labor Statistics (see the web site URL if you want to see it all)It is average wage data for production and non-supervisory employees in the manufacturing industry.

    The average hourly wage in 1965 was $2.54
    The average hourly wage in 2011 was $18.98

    Again, for you old timers on here, think back to what you were making for a wage in the early to mid 1960s.When you bought a box of new shells back then, what percentage of your hourly wage did that box of shells cost?
     
  2. Skeeterzx

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    Forgot to add to this. I shoot new Winchester AA ammunition. I do not reload any longer. I load up on the shells when the rebates are on. So, I shoot new premium shells for <$6.00 a box in 2011.
     
  3. gunsmoke77802

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    Yes they're cheaper. I started in the '80s & AA were $5.75? box. Now wallyville sells them $8.00 box most of the time. Lots cheaper to shoot now.
     
  4. Skeeterzx

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    I don't think you understand the question....
     
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    My word, yes. In the early to mid-sixties a box of target loads was $3-3.50 and a practice round was $1.25.

    Compare that to the cost then of a a 35-cent gallon of gasoline, a new Model 12 ($225) or an M32 Kreighoff ($350), and the fact that a new car could be had for a bit over $2000.
     
  6. Martinpicker

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    Let me throw in a few more facts to confuse the issue! My dad bought a brand new 1965 Chevrolet Impala Super Sport for $3600.00. He made the remark that he could not believe it cost that much, but that my mother's teachers salary the previous year, (in a pretty well paid Illinois school system,) had been $3600.00! Unfortunately, I can't remember what I was paying for shells, but in the late sixties I paid $200 for a like new Winchester 101 Trap in a breakdown case! Jack
     
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    I started teaching in 1976 and made $8000 the first year. The price of a new Corvette that year was $8000. I retired from teaching after 31 years and was making $50,000. The price of a new Corvette that year was $50,000. I never owned a new Corvette, but I thought it was a telling comparison. Shotgun shells seem to still be a comparitive bargain. Mark
     
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    I earned $2.385 (yeah, that's right $2.38 1/2 cents/hr) working at Beth. Steel in 1966. Targets were $1.25 and new shells cost over $2.00. Shooting Trap today is a bargain at $5/rd and $5/box of cheap shells!!
     
  9. Ajax

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    When I first started it took one hours work to buy a box of shells. When I retired it took one hour to buy 5.

    I would say they are cheaper and a lot better. I don't have to try and jam a swollen paper shell into a pump when the ducks are overhead anymore.;)

    Ajax
     
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    The great scam is that everything is given a "dollar" value. In fact, prices don't go up, the value of the dollar goes down.

    This helps mollify the masses so they don't rebel as the money they save in banks and in bonds slowly disappears in value.

    In 1976 I was buying 20 box cases of Federal Trap Loads for about $42 - bought in 200 case lots, factory direct. I had to go out of that business because it was ruining my back.

    Gold, at that time, was 10 times cheaper than today in dollar terms.
     
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    Back in 64 a silver dollar was worth a dollar and two of them would buy a box of shells. Today that same two silver dollars will buy 7 and a half boxes of shells. My first job paid $4500 per year available in silver at the bank. Today I need about $99,000 to buy those same 4300 silve dollars.
     
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    The house next door to me sold in 2005 for $270,000.00. It just sold out of foreclosure last month for $71,000.00. I don't think the guy who bought it 6 years ago is too worried about the cost of Trap or gasoline.
     
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    The average hourly wage in 2011 was $18.98


    Not in Florida..
     
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    Just came from Cabelas in St. Louis. Federal Wounded Warrior shells, %52.99 a flat. When I was a kid back in the 70's I could buy a case (20 boxes) for $40.00. I made $3.00 an hour at the local lumber yard ($120.00 per week) Now I make $1400 a week and really have to watch the sales.
     
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    Mark, that's interesting. I started teaching school in 1965. My contract was for 3,000 dollars. My wife's grandad bought her a new 65 GTO for 3,000 dollars.

    Shells comparable or cheaper now than back then? Apples-to-apples, guess they are.

    Steve
     
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    I think this is a cool thread. I used to use an example of growth/inflation with my students of a new Colt .45 ordered in the 1880's and paid for with a $20.00 gold piece. Then we would compare the price of a new Colt .45 and the price of a $20.00 gold coin today. About the same! Jack
     
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    The average wage is no where near $18 per hour.
     
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    According to the 2010 census, the average hourly wage for the private sector in 2010 is $19. see link. Mark
     
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    I saved this from a posting in 2006.
    1963 prices to 2006 based on inflation. In 1963 you paid $2.35 for a
    box of high brass paper shells, in 2006 they would cost $15.47.
    63 $8 for a bag of shot, $50.67 in 06. $37 for 20 boxes of AA in 06, $242.61.
    1963 New K32 $995, 06 $6,551, New truck in 63, $2000, 06 $13,167. 63 gas was .34 cents, 06 should be $2.24.
    So you can see in some cases we ahead of the game in others we really take a beating. I graduated in 1963, it was a great year, but I would not care to go back.
     
  20. John Thompson

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    I bought 500 case shells for $38.in 1968(Remington Blue Magics) I earned over $4. an hour. That's $1.90 + 2% sales tax $1.98 each. Today, without factory rebates $7.50 + 8% sales tax $8.09. Due to give backs, $16.50 hr. Biggest difference is the higher tax and the reduction of disposable income. Remember, if you will, FICA capped at $4800. today it is over $100,000.
     
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