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Are components considered ammo?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by open choke, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. open choke

    open choke TS Member

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    Is this a loophole? Separately each element can't make a shell.

    I'm in NY and now have to figure out how if components won't be the same issue as buying boxed factory ammo that now has been logged in books and go through a NCIS check
     
  2. kiv-c

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    Sounds to me like the easiest solution would be to leave NY!
     
  3. skeet_man

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    They aren't yet, but it's only a matter of time until they are tracked as well. Only good thing is they can't do anything to you for buying ammo out of state, hopefully you live close to a border. I already plan on making monthly or semi-monthly trips to PA or OH for my ammo and reloading needs.
     
  4. open choke

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    Skeet man I know you're all the way upstate.

    Where are there reloading places in PA besides CAC?

    Do the gun stores have them also?
     
  5. skeet_man

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    CAC is the only one I'm aware of in that side of PA, Dawsons isn't too far in OH.
     
  6. open choke

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    Poconos would be the closest in PA to me after passing through jersey
     
  7. Frank C

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    I hope all ny located gun manufacturers move out and make big news of the jobs lost
     
  8. skeet_man

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    Most of them are long gone. Only major players are Remington and Kimber. I know a couple states have been trying to lure Remington away, this may be the final straw. I think the only thing that kept them here is loyalty to the town and region. Remington pulling out of Ilion will absolutely cripple Herkimer county and that part of the state, there is no real other major employer in the area. I can't see them continuing to produce firearms at that facility that residents of the state in which the firearms are produced can no longer legally own them. And I would have to think if they are no longer legal to buy, they probably aren't legal to manufacture or distribute.
     
  9. 870

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    Also remember that the ammo registration won't kick in until a year after effective date.
     
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  11. open choke

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    870,

    Where did you read that?

    So you what date are we looking at jan 2014?
     
  12. BT-100dc

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    If they legislate ammo, the next phone loophole will be reloading components; i.e., slippery slope argument. We need to hold our ground whether it be .223 or next it will be 12 gauge; i.e., divide and conquer. Keep in mind if these liberals get their way only our memories of the shooting sports will remain. Please join the NRA if you're not a member. BT100dc
     
  13. skeet_man

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    870- Since it appears that you read the law more thoroughly, what part was that in?

    This is what I'm reading:

    3. NO LATER THAN THIRTY DAYS AFTER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE STATE
    POLICE CERTIFIES THAT THE STATEWIDE LICENSE AND RECORD DATABASE ESTAB
    LISHED PURSUANT TO SECTION 400.02 OF THIS ARTICLE IS OPERATIONAL FOR THE
    PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, A DEALER IN FIREARMS LICENSED PURSUANT TO
    SECTION 400.00 OF THIS ARTICLE, A SELLER OF AMMUNITION AS DEFINED IN
    SUBDIVISION TWENTY-FOUR OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER SHALL NOT
    TRANSFER ANY AMMUNITION TO ANY OTHER PERSON WHO IS NOT A DEALER IN
    FIREARMS AS DEFINED IN SUBDIVISION NINE OF SUCH SECTION 265.00 OR A
    SELLER OF AMMUNITION AS DEFINED IN SUBDIVISION TWENTY-FOUR OF SECTION
    265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER, UNLESS:

    and it goes on to outline the registration and background check system.
     
  14. Porcupine

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    In Massachusetts, all components are considered 'ammunition' under state law, but I've never heard of anyone being arrested for having too many wads. We have some VERY stupid legislators here.

    LA in MA
     
  15. skeet_man

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    Porcupine- Are ammunition purchased tracked in any way, beyond showing ID?
     
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    Ian, see S. 58e at the very bottom. That is where the effective dates of the law are defined. The ammo checks are instituted at S. 50 of the bill, and S 58 states that section of the bill is effective 1 year after the bill is passed.
     
  17. Frank C

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    Skeetman, in mass, just show the ID and then check out at the register! No tracking in mass YET
     
  18. LUGNUTZ426

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    D&R in Nanticoke Pa has loading components and will order anything you need. close to I 81
     
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    i think the ammo and component sales are the real slippery slope of this whole debate. high prices are a big part of the decline in sport shooting, new higher taxes on ammo combined with the hassle of just buying it wont help our cause one bit. you cant kill an elephant with a match, but if you burn down the hay pile, the end is easy to see.
     
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    Porcupine, are residents of Mass prohibited from receiving components such as cases, bullets, wads, etc. shipped from out of state?
     
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