Just wondering if the Bulter XX 12's have started to ship yet. Anybody got one yet?
I sure like the design and would like to try one. With the shoulder problems I have and more discs in my neck giving me trouble, the idea of very little felt recoil would be nice. It looks as if it could truly be a one gun for all three clay target games. Larry
I wonder if they might of taken the 10-12 grand in deposits and retired to a South Pacific Island someplace ... I mean hell you could probably get to the border on that ... Larry is a perfectionist and if it ain't right it don't go out the door ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
Butler had their truck and display at the PITA Pacific Grand all of last week. The rep said that they would be delivering a few gun within a couple of weeks.
The demo gun he had with him had been shot a lot; the finish was worn off at the side port. I was amazed that the release trigger, and this was the rep's words,” was a piece of crap". He told me all the good release triggers were back at the shop.
I didn't talk to anyone that had shot it or put money down on a gun
I shot the butler at the PITA grand,I was definately impressed with the recoil much less than my 11 lb DT-10 with a clyde slyde on it,I used the release they had there and was pleased with it crisp with a good positive set,I was mostly impressed with the lack of noise from the action cycling you would never know you were not shooting a break open gun,as to comparing it to the Fabarms auto is like comparing a Mirouko to a Perazzi.Jerry
Larry,I don't think it's unreasonable compared to the retail price of other custom guns like a Cole,Mach one,Bowen ect.I personally would want to shoot a fair amount of doubles with one before I made the plunge.Jerry
The price on the gun is reasonable if it works for the individual shooter. Just wondering if a stock maker can make a custom stock for this new style gun. With my bad back it may be the only gun I'll be able to shoot.
No, Phil, that's not how it works. It's the guy who shows up with $ 7,500 of fresh money that gets the first one off the assembly line. I'm not saying this is what is going to happen, but neither am I so pollyanna that I think this is just the normal lead time for the introduction of a new product.
Realty may be somewhere in between, but I doubt there is a bunch of near
finished guns ready to be shipped out the end of August, early September, or any time soon - anymore than there were in July. We all know the economic
conditions in the world, the decline in trapshooting, the competition in the
gun market and the scarcity of venture capital. This may be an invention that would have better been sold to a major gun manufacturer.
Since nobody lives or dies because they don't have their gun yet, it may be
that a little patience is all that's needed. There's really no other option.
ok you guys at the grand. do they have any guns for delivery at the grand. I assume they have demo guns but put them on the spot and what do they say about delivery.. someone hold their toes to the line and find out. It soulds like a great gun but I'm afraid to send momney to the company becaue of all that I hear on this site. motordoc
Having owned an electric contracting business, I'm very leary of slow progress, people who demand alot of up front money. I knew lots of general contractors who financed jobs by their down payments from subsequent jobs--when the subs worked on the last job- they were SOL
Phil Berkowitz
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