It is a very fast load but it kicks like a mule. I used 26.5 grains with a heavy 1 1/4 ( slightly over) fed paper, fed 209 primer, fed 12s4 wad. It chrono'd out at 1375 and would reach out and smash a target a long way but like I said it kicks so I dont use it. I get almost the same job done with 7625 and a lot less recoil