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Any need for a better Beretta Auto trigger?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by mette56, Aug 28, 2012.

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  1. mette56

    mette56 Well-Known Member

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    I've shot a Beretta Auto at trap and sporting clays since they were first introduced. Have also shot Perazzis along the way. Big difference in triggers...right? High quality guns have crisp, positive triggers with no creep and fast hammer fall. Beretta auto stock triggers do not. Over the years, in an attempt to make my Beretta triggers more like those of high quality non-automatic shotguns, I've developed, what I think, is a closer comparison. Thinking about going in to production and offering a modification to existing triggers...or even a complete steel model.

    Do you think there is a market for a better feeling Beretta Auto trigger?

    Thanks in advance for your input.

    milt
     
  2. BigJohn270

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    That is the reason I don't shoot a 391 now. I have owned a half a dozen or more thinking "I can get use to the trigger" but can't. I have had more than on smith work on the triggers and was never happy with the results.
    I shoot a Kreighoff and so in my mind the bar is set very high.
     
  3. Sky Buster

    Sky Buster Sky Buster TS Supporters

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    You'll never be able to get the ignition time comparable
    to Perazzi, Krieghoff, etc.
     
  4. Duck

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    milt,

    There is a market with me!. I'll be your Huckleberry!. :) I have two
    Xtremas first generation (hunting synthetic) that have horse**** triggers. Bought both from the same guy used. One has a overtravel screw behind the trigger in the guard and does seem marginally better than the other, I'm sure
    someone attempted something to improve it. Not sure if all Berettas auto triggers have basically the same innards?. If you want to try one to check
    your mod. I'm your guy! PM me if your interested. These are meatsticks so
    something somewhat crisp around 4-4 1/2#s would be huge. Maybe your mod has them lighter already?.

    Don;
     
  5. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Build and make it a release & I will buy it.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  6. BigJohn270

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    I should have said "I don't shoot one in comp." I do have a Beretta Extrema II that I hunt with.
     
  7. Chango2

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    YES!!!
     
  8. gousgouni

    gousgouni TS Member

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    Cole does a great 391 trigger job for around $90.00. Great addition to any 391. Great service too. As mentioned above the lock time can never be the same as P guns and K guns but that is not mechanically possible. I know good trigger work though and I highly recommend Cole for the 391.
    Hope my input helped a bit.
     
  9. mette56

    mette56 Well-Known Member

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    Mine is a release and has been since the early 70's so this would be available for both pull and release. My hammer fall is not as fast as a Perazzi but considerably faster than a Beretta factory. Sky Buster, you're right, it wont be as fast but close to double the speed of factory if not more. With some additional development and testing...it could be even faster. The big improvement is with the feel. Positive trigger shoe feel (not mushy or wobbley)and with a release this revision makes the trigger feel more positive on the set and release. Once you start to relax on your release, the hammer has more tension and you can feel it go. The shoe itself is much more stable in the housing. I have a spare release made by Bruce Bowen that does not have these modifications and there is NO comparison between the two. Before I would offer this, I would do further research with my engineering colleagues to maximize any current or additional features. I haven't done any further improvements all these years because the original revisions produced an acceptable and much improved trigger.

    I very much appreciate your candid input...pro or con!

    milt
     
  10. claybrdr

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    My Cole triggers were just so so. Timney was the best before he got too old.
     
  11. BIGDON

    BIGDON Well-Known Member

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    Doug Hubbard built a release for me years ago and as I trade and buy 390, 391, teknys I just keep moving the trigger from gun to gun. It's a great crisp release. As far as I know he is still building them and he posts on here.

    Not to jump on your thread but to build a good trigger for this gun is an art and there is a lot of junk out there.

    Good Luck and success with your endevor.

    Don
     
  12. BigM-Perazzi

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    I figure if Precision Triggers can get $1800 for a Perazzi release, an excellent, metal trigger for a 39X series would reasonably set you back $600-800...
     
  13. dtrap

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    Yes...I have 3 303s...great guns to hunt with and shoot sporting clays. A crisp trigger would be great.
     
  14. WoodsonEnt

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    Cole Gunsmithing wrote the book on tuning 391 triggers!
     
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    milt- send me a pm or call me this weekend --i'd like to visit w/ you on this trigger---wally riebesell 660-744-4115 cst
     
  16. claybrdr

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    Cole no more "wrote the book" than Angleport, Seminole Gunworks or Briley...

    Allan Timney wrote the book on Beretta auto triggers if any one person did.
     
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    Uh, until I read this post, I did not know I had a problem with my 391 Triggers.
     
  19. 635 G

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    Cole has a triggersmith who does their triggers. I had a Cole trigger & it was less senitive than my Spears release.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  20. bevolt

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    391 shooter writes,

    "Uh, until I read this post, I did not know I had a problem with my 391 Triggers."

    I have 2 391's in my closet. One has a stock trigger, one has a Cole's "precision trigger job". Huge difference. Stock trigger feels very "squishy" and has lots of pre-travel and over-travel.
     
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