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antique baker single barrel trap

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  1. groundpounder

    groundpounder TS Member

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    Greetings to all,

    A local gunshop has a Baker single barrel trap, probably dating from the 1930's??? could not find much on baker shotguns except s x s. anyone have any data on their single barrels? this one has a odd rib mounting system on barrel and is in engraved,

    gp
     
  2. MTA Tom

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    "The Baker Gun & Forging company announced in November of 1909 a single barrel trap gun....

    The gun had a lockup featuring two cylindrical bolts which projected out of the standing breech portion of the receiver. This was similar to the bolting of the 1922 Ithaca Knick.

    The mechanism of the ejector system was entirely enclosed in the barrel lug, which was quite different from most boxlock guns....

    The Baker trap gun was produced in three grades: the Sterling, priced at $65.00, the Elite at $100.00 and the Superba at $160.00 in 1910. Every gun was made to special order and no two were exactly alike. Barrels were blued; receivers were color case hardened.

    All three grades were fitted with the integral ventilated ribs and had a scalloped receiver. In 1915 the company changed the integral rib to two types of floating ribs. One has rectangular posts and the other a doughnut type round post somewhat like the post on the 1918 L.C. Smith. Also at this time the scalloped receiver of the lower grade Sterling was changed to a straight rear receiver edge. The receiver's finish was changed from color case hardening to a black oxide over a case hardened steel.

    The ejector system was also changed at this time to the more conventionial forend mounting....

    The bolting was changed with the elimination of the right hand cylindrical locking bolt, retaining only the one on the left side....

    The Baker single barrel proved to be a very well-made shotgun and has only one pronounced weakness: that is the breaking of the screws holding the forend iron to the forend....

    The later Bakers made by the H&D Folsom Arms Company were fitted with a forend release lever....The lever itself is shaped almost like a breech-opening lever facing in the opposite direction....

    There are four series of serial numbers for the Baker single barrel trap guns. The first were the octagon receiver model made from 1909 until 1914; these were numbered from 1 through 300. In 1915 a new series began, using the floating ribs and forend-mounted ejectors. Their numbers ran from 48500 through 48999; they were produced until the sale of the company in 1919. The 40000 through 41000 numbers were from 1919 until 1922.

    Folsom Arms Company guns were produced from 1920 until 1924: their serial numbers were 51000 through 51300...."

    From "The American Single Barrel Trap Gun", by Frank F. Conley.
     
  3. groundpounder

    groundpounder TS Member

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    excellent data mta tom, appreciate it and quick response

    i think the one they have is the elite model,

    any idea what is worth in 85 percent condition?
     
  4. phirel

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    I once had several Baker trap guns. They are now in the ATA Hall of Fame. Baker has very close connections with both Parker and A.H. Fox. They are uncommon and fine guns but do not demand a high market value. From your limited description, $1500 would be a reasonable buy and $2,000 is the top I would pay. But, if you buy it for more than I would pay you would not be disappointed in a few years. Each gun was custom made and I have never seen two of them alike.

    Pat Ireland
     
  5. MTA Tom

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    The Blue Book of Gun Values says of the Baker Sterling, the Elite and the Superba single barrel trap guns, "These guns, although more rare than their side-by-side counterparts, are not as desirable. Typically, values will be 50%-75% less than for a side-by-side model...."

    For what it's worth, they list the best quality Baker double guns in 80% to 100% condition as $2300-$3750.
     
  6. riflegunbuilder

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    The Blue Book values shown for Bakers have long been reasonable giudlines for pricing. However, the Greg Martin Auction earlier this year saw almost every gun exceed the estimate.

    I had talked with several of the Baker gurus around the country. We all thought the estimates for this auction were inflated. None of the Baker SBT guns are common and any gun above Sterling grade I would think of as uncommon.
     
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