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Another victory 4 The Second Ammendment Foundation

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  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    7TH CIRCUIT LETS POSNER RULING
    STAND; HUGE WIN FOR CCW, SAYS SAF


    BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today won a significant victory for concealed carry when the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals let stand a December ruling by a three-judge panel of the court that forces Illinois to adopt a concealed carry law, thus affirming that the right to bear arms exists outside the home.

    The ruling came in Moore v. Madigan, a case filed by SAF. The December opinion that now stands was written by Judge Richard Posner, who gave the Illinois legislature 180 days to “craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment…on the carrying of guns in public.” That clock is ticking, noted SAF Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb.

    “Illinois lawmakers need to create some kind of licensing system or face the prospect of not having any regulations at all when Judge Posner’s deadline arrives,” Gottlieb said. “They need to act. They can no longer run and hide from this mandate.”

    “We were delighted with Judge Posner’s ruling in December,” he continued, “and today’s decision by the entire circuit to allow his ruling to stand is a major victory, and not just for gun owners in Illinois. Judge Posner’s ruling affirmed that the right to keep and bear arms, itself, extends beyond the boundary of one’s front door.”

    In December, Judge Posner wrote, “The right to ‘bear’ as distinct from the right to ‘keep’ arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of ‘bearing’ arms within one’s home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home.”

    Judge Posner subsequently added, “To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald.”

    “It is now up to the legislature,” Gottlieb said, “to craft a statute that recognizes the right of ordinary citizens to carry outside the home, without a sea of red tape or a requirement to prove any kind of need beyond the cause of personal protection.”

    The ruling also affects a similar case filed by the National Rifle Association known as Shepard v. Madigan.
     
  2. wayno

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    terrific!!!!!!!!

    now, just maybe, some of the guys around here will begin to believe in our court sytems' ability to control the legislative nuts who are trying to unreasonably restrict 2nd amendment rights.
     
  3. Setterman

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    wayno, you mean the libby Democrat nuts that you vote for?
     
  4. wayno

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    there are about the same number of nuts in the democrat party as there are in yours, setterman. i suggest that both of us disregard them. i know i do.
     
  5. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    Yes, and you know what? These courts who have done us good just up and volunteered to help us out. There haven't been millions of dollars spent on hundreds of lawsuits all over America, and there surely hasn't been millions of man hours of hard work poured in to them. Nope, these victories were just handed to us, which proves that even if we hadn't spent those millions of dollars and poured those man hours out, the courts would have rescued us anyway. No, really.
     
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