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Another K-80 blows up

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by TOOLMAKER 251, Feb 3, 2008.

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  1. TOOLMAKER 251

    TOOLMAKER 251 Active Member

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    Yesterday at South End gun club in Pa. Frank Snyders K-80 came apart. Was shooting on post 5 when the right side of the receiver wall blew off. Nobody was hurt, yes he was shooting reloads.
     
  2. g7777777

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    14 of them blew up according to rumor in the last little bit alone--

    send all those potentially defective ones to me- I pay top salvage value

    regards from the great state of Iowa

    Gene

    PS they are the safest gun made and tested with the highest proofs of any shotgun I bet
     
  3. TOOLMAKER 251

    TOOLMAKER 251 Active Member

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    Rick, I was not there on Sat. when it happened, I only seen today what a K-80 looks like when it fails. John Allem has a Perazzi MX-8 receiver that is much worse then this one.
     
  4. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    TOOLMAKER 251,

    By chance, was he firing the top barrel of the over/under when it happened?
     
  5. jsteenson

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    don't blame the gun,blame the reloader!Jack
     
  6. Bocephas

    Bocephas Well-Known Member

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    All guns are proof tested for pressures way above the normal limit.

    Can someone please tell me how you can get that much powder in a reload and not see something is wrong?

    Receiver blowing out the side would indicate to me an obstruction in the barrel.

    Bo
     
  7. JBrooks

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    He should have been shooting an H&R according to a thread a while back.
     
  8. oleolliedawg

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    Was the barrel backbored or was the forcing cone elongated by a backyard gunsmith. I hear he was having trouble with his reloader. I also understand it happened at Hamburg-not South End!!
     
  9. hmb

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    Where are the pictures? HMB
     
  10. phirel

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    This is a real puzzle to me. The "right side of the receiver wall blew off". The inside of the receiver area should be protected from pressure. If it were not, lots of triggers and barrel selectors would blow off. I can't understand how this would happen.

    Pat Ireland
     
  11. MTA Tom

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    I can't either, Pat.

    However, I was shooting trap a few years ago when the Valmet O/U being shot on station 5 let go. It too blew out the right receiver wall and actually pushed the standing breech back into the rear of the action, destroying the stock in the process. The forend was in at least a hundred pieces. The barrels, of course, were toast. Incredinly, the shooter was hardly scratched.

    I didn't understand it then, and I still don't. An overcharge of the wrong powder?
     
  12. jackmitch

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    we had an 1100 blow at our club one night, the gun was sent to remington and they determined that it was a week shell, not too much powder. they sent the owner of the gun and the kid he loaned it to each a new 1100 trap.jackmitch
     
  13. nomderf

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    Reloads - a little more dab will do ya!

    I had a KX-5 and it never blew up!

    38-01615
     
  14. ec90t

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    For some reason K-80's are reported to have blown up a lot more than any other gun made. I know one came apart last year at the Indiana State Shoot (not sure if new or reloaded shells were being shot). Someone posted pictures on this site a year or so ago of a K-80 that self destructed. Another case that was reported on this site quite a while back of another K-80 that came apart and Krieghoff replaced the gun.

    It would truly be nice if some pictures would be posted of these happenings.

    A guy that I shoot with quite often, fires some heavy shells through his Bavarian Suell K-80 with nary a problem. When I say heavy shells, 1 1/2oz of 6's at 1400fps +,I mean real heavy. These are factory loads BTW. Should I be concerned?

    ec90t
     
  15. hmb

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    Is it possible the gun was possessed by demons. HMB
     
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    The harder the metal is, the less it can stand up to repeated high vibrational waves. Tensile strength and metal hardness are different properties. Same principal with a wine glass and the opera singer. Hap
     
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    I am a non beliver show ME! Bill
     
  18. Tripod

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    My remington 1100 took a double charge of 700X (34.4 grains) 1 1/8 ounce of shot. Kicked like a mule and broke the target but not the gun.
     
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    I've been shooting K-32s and E-62s for over 30 years. Both standard and high grade. I have never, NEVER, had a problem like the one described here. My Europa 62, a K-32 from Hal duPont, has digested many 3-1/4 dr - 1-1/4 oz Winchester Super Pigeons and the same load in Federal. It has even doubled several times with the Super Pigeon in the bottom barrel and the Federal in the top. NO HARM DONE TO THE GUN. My shoulder, on the other hand.............well, let's just say I called it a day.

    Is it possible that the older, softer K-32s are better able to absorb the continued pounding? "Hap MecTweaks" mentioned that in his post. It's possible, I suppose!

    Either way, I'll just keep shooting my old K-32s and E-62s.

    Erol Tucker - The Bayrat
    POC, TX
     
  20. BDodd

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    Well, just thank goodness it wasn't one of those defective M-32 recievers - whew!.....Bob Dodd
     
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