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Ammo rules

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Jonathan Bernstein, Sep 26, 2008.

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  1. Jonathan Bernstein

    Jonathan Bernstein TS Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    What are the rules for ammunition? Shot size, shot weight, velocity?
  2. Dove Commander

    Dove Commander TS Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    for trap, no more than 1 1/8 oz, 3dram , 7 1/2 shot.
  3. Dove Commander

    Dove Commander TS Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    forgot one thing, 3 dram was 1200 feet per second. Now 1250 fps is allowed. Maybe some one with the official rule book can chime in.
  4. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998

    Any shooter violating any of these Rules shall be disqualified from
    competition in accordance with these Rules. Any such violator shall
    be referred to the Executive Committee for possible further disciplinary

    A contestant cannot use:

    1. A gun with a chamber larger than 12 gauge. Guns of smaller
    gauges are permissible in registered and tournament shooting, but
    no competitive consideration shall be given in recognition of that
    fact for handicap and classification purposes. A contestant may not
    use a gun capable of chambering more than one gauge of shells at
    the same time. For example, chambering 12 gauge and 20 gauge
    shells in the same gun at the same time is prohibited.

    2. Loads that contain nickel or copper coated shot or tracer loads.
    However, the use of lead, steel, bismuth, or other composite nontoxic
    shot materials shall be allowed. Any gun club allowing shot
    materials described in this Rule, other than lead, shall be required
    to cover or shield all hard surfaces on trap fields which are known,
    or reasonably believed, to cause pellet ricochet with material which
    will prevent the shot pellets from rebounding and/or ricocheting.

    3. Any load with a velocity greater than 1290 FPS (Feet Per Second)
    with maximum shot charge of 1 1/8 ounces, or 1325 FPS with a
    maximum shot charge of 1 ounce, or 1350 FPS with a maximum
    shot charge of 7/8 ounces or less, as measured in any individual
    shotshell. These velocities are maximum and no individual shotshell
    shall exceed these limits for the designated shot charge. In addition,
    no load containing more than 1 1/8 ounces or any shot larger than
    Number 7 1/2 can be used. Shot charges are maximum and no
    charge may exceed the charge amount by more than 3%.

    4. Any shell loaded with black powder.


    PS By the way, (at least since 1982, my oldest rulebook) the only official definition of 3-dram (SAAMI) was _not_ 1200 fps no matter what people think/thought it said. Today's definition is tighter, not looser than it was; the resulting speeds are lower, not higher. Not that it makes any difference other than accuracy.
  5. Jonathan Bernstein

    Jonathan Bernstein TS Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    Thanks for the replies. Do you know if the rules are the same for skeet?
  6. locdoc

    locdoc Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Antrim, NH
    For your reading enjoyment....

    From the NSSA website/rulebook page 6:

    1. Gauge Specifications - Lead Shot
    a. Shells commercially manufactured by reputable companies,
    which are clearly labeled and guaranteed as to
    lead shot sizes and weight are recommended for use
    in registered skeet shoots. However, NSSA will accept
    results of shoots and register scores where reloads
    have been used. NSSA assumes no responsibility in
    connection with the use of reloads.
    b. Gun Clubs are allowed to use alternate shot (other than
    lead) for registered shoots: alternate loads must meet
    industry standards for "target load" ammunition.
    2. Reloads
    a. The maximum load permissible is described below.
    This table makes ample allowance for manufacturing
    purposes, but the use of a proper shot bar is
    cautioned (a 12 gauge bar designed for 7-1/2 shot
    will weigh approximately 11 grains heavy when No.
    9 shot is used).
    Gauge Ounces Lead Grains Standard Grains Maximum
    12 1-1/8 492.2 507
    20 7/8 382.8 394
    28 3/4 328.1 338
    .410 1/2 218.8 229
    b. No shot smaller than No. 9 (2mm) or larger than
    7-1/2 shall be used in any load.
    c. Any shooter may elect to have his/her shells weighed
    by management before entering an event. The shooter
    must submit all shells to be used in said event.
    After one shell is selected, weighed and approved
    by these standards, the balance of the shells shall
    be stamped, approved and sealed by some suitable
    method and not be opened until on the field where the
    event is to be shot in the presence of the field referee.
    Failure to have the field referee witness the breaking
    of the sealed boxes or containers on their respective
    fields shall necessitate the shooter using factory
    ammunition or risk having his/her score disqualified.
    Any shooter using approved and sealed ammunition
    shall be immune from further checking.
    d. Challenge Rule: At shoots where shells have not
    been checked, any contestant may, upon formal
    challenge presented to shoot management, have the
    chief referee, who shall use timely discretion, select
    a shell from another contestant and have said shell
    checked against the standards listed in rule I-B-2-a.
    To prevent abuse of a shooter with this rule, shoot
    management shall make known the challenger and
    the individual challenged. Entire groups or squads
    shall not be challenged for purposes of anonymity.
    3. Checking Factory Loads
    Any shooter found to be using commercial loads heavier
    than the maximum grains permissible as listed in I-B-2-a
    shall have his/her score disqualified for that event.

    Doug Whiton, P/W dealer/dist
  7. AJ100

    AJ100 TS Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    "Do you know if the rules are the same for skeet?"

    Man, was that an opening. I started but I thought, naw, too tired.

  8. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    ATA trap shooting is the only displine that I know of(except maybe PTA) that still has a "speed limit" All the others restrict only Shot size and weight.
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