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Americans may be out of a job....BUT....

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    What about the AMERICANS that are out of a job....What about saving money on healthcare....And to add insult to injury,,,,they may use the slaughter (which is exactly what congress is doing to this country) rule to get it on hussein's desk....


    Obama backs senators' immigration overhaul outline
    By SUZANNE GAMBOA



    WASHINGTON

    President Barack Obama, facing criticism from advocates of immigration reform, pledged Thursday "to do everything in my power" to get immigration legislation moving in Congress this year.

    Obama said work on an immigration bill should move forward based on an outline released Thursday by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

    "A critical next step will be to translate their framework into a legislative proposal, and for Congress to act at the earliest possible opportunity," Obama said.

    The outline calls for illegal immigrants to admit they broke the law, pay a fine and back taxes, and perform community service if they want to get on a pathway to legal status. They would also be required to pass background checks and be proficient in English.

    "I congratulate Sens. Schumer and Graham for their leadership, and pledge to do everything in my power to forge a bipartisan consensus this year on this important issue so we can continue to move forward on comprehensive immigration reform," Obama said.

    Obama's statement and the senators' outline were timed for release before a march and rally Sunday that is expected to draw tens of thousands of people to Washington to press the administration and Congress for immigration reform.

    Immigrants and their supporters have grown frustrated as the Obama administration has continued to detain and deport immigrants while immigration reform remains dormant. Obama had promised to make it a top priority in his first year in office.

    Hoping to temper the percolating discontent, Obama held two separate meetings last week with grass-roots immigration leaders as well as Schumer and Graham. The president assured the leaders at the meeting that he remains committed to reform.

    Obama met Thursday at the White House with Reps. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Solomon Ortiz, D-Texas, the sponsors of a House immigration bill. Gutierrez said later he agreed to vote for Obama's signature domestic bill, health care reform, only if an immigration bill advanced quickly and with a presidential imprimatur. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus also endorsed the health care bill.

    "I'm committed to voting for this health care bill on that basis," Gutierrez said. "I want the president to be in lockstep with us, which I believe he was during the campaign."

    White House spokesman Reid Cherlin said there was no quid pro quo involved in the White House's dealings with Gutierrez.

    "Congressman Gutierrez is a longtime leader of the reform effort on the Hill, so of course they've had many conversations about it, and they'll continue to," Cherlin said.

    Other parts of the Schumer-Graham outline include:

    --Giving legal permanent residence to people who graduate with doctoral or master's degrees from U.S. universities.

    --Adopting zero tolerance for illegal immigrants who commit crimes and expanding enforcement of immigration laws.

    --Creating a flexible legal immigration system that brings in more low-skilled workers when jobs are available and fewer in a recession.

    --Requiring all U.S. workers -- citizens and legal immigrants -- to get fraud-proof Social Security cards with a biometric identifier.

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    Associated Press writers Laurie Kellman and Charles Babington contributed to this report.
     
  2. highflyer

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    This government scares the **** out of me. It is right out of several novels about extreme government control written when I was young. At that time nobody thought it could really happen in America. Anything can happen in a country when they turn their back on God.
     
  3. Ljutic111

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    First close the boarders, as a State of Emergency, then make every illegal imigrant who has been subsidized government money for more than one year take a hike back from whatever country they came from. Prosecute any one attempting to enter this country illegally. Any Person who came to this country for an education for the sole purpose of helping their country thru college in Medicine must go back there and do what they intended or contribute an amount of time free to the American public without healthcare in free clinics. My Grand parents came into the USA legally at age 14years old thru Ellis Island and never took a dime from the government and made their own livelyhood whatever way they could, most was sweeping floors cleaning toilets at Dupont in NJ before retiring. I think my grandfather was the first to start his own landscaping business in NJ working at a rich business mans home on the weekends cutting grass and doing yard work ?? Damn do I miss him.
     
  4. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    so flinch are you saying you are FOR the amnesty of the illegal aliens that are currently here????
     
  5. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

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    Well flinch, your congress could pass a law on hiring illegals, why haven't they? Could it be they don't want to piss off Latinos????? Like they have everyone else? They've had 3 years!!!
     
  6. daddiooo

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    To all,

    Take a look at the Oklahoma solution. If you are here illegaly then no drivers licenses, no workers comp, no social services, no free medical care, no free schooling. In other words, GET OUT. No jobs, no illegals. If you hire illegals then you are breaking the law also and should pay the penalty as well.
    How could this be any clearer???????


    If you follow the LEGAL path to citizenship here in the US......welcome aboard.


    People who don't enforce federal, state and local laws concerning immagration, (congressmen, representatives, local politicians) should be fined and incarcerated as well depending on the severity of the situation. If you have been convicted then you lose your job as well. There is a price to pay for your stupidity or neglect.
     
  7. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Flinch, you weren't very clear in the previous post, so I asked for clarification....
     
  8. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It's asinine to compare the purchase of Alaska or the creation of a National Park with this turd of a bill.

    This is not, as claimed, health care reform. It is massive expansion of government control, massive tax increases, health care rationing (which has already started with Medicare), adding millions of illegal aliens into the health care system, trading votes for the amnesty of millions of illegal aliens, plus the sleaziest blatant vote buying I can ever remember. Very few have read the entire bill yet are voting on it, the transparency we were told was a core belief of this administration went right out the window when things got tough, and there was a heapin' helpin' of arrogance against ordinary citizens for even daring to question this bill. Then there's the worrisome reports that insurance companies mainly wrote the bill. Then we find this bill is so expensive that it cannot even be implemented until the program has a four year head started to build up funds. Add to that the "misspeaks" like universal health care being a goal for the last 100 years and other lies (let's call it what it is) and you have a recipe for disaster.

    Health care reform is supposed to be the goal. Flush this turd. Put the tape on erase. Start over.
     
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