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Americans, doing the jobs Canadians won't.

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Sep 10, 2011.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Americans, doing the jobs Canadians won

    Oh the irony.
     
  2. hoot619

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    Just where did you read that to support that statement. Yes they are going there for work. Who wouldn't if their jobs here are eliminated. Nothing in the article that Canadians don't want these jobs. There are jobs available but Canada protects their own. If they can't find a Canadian qualified that wants it then it can be given to a non-Canadian. At least they have jobs available. If we don't get our manufacturing back in the U.S and keep what we have it will get worse. We quit counting people without jobs that don't get benefits. Hell they are still unemployed! Ken U
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ken, it was a tongue in cheek remark about the bleeding heart mantra that illegal aliens are doing the jobs Americans won't. It's called sarcastic juxtaposition.
     
  4. Martinpicker

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    Want fix this stuff....buy American! Cars, guns, shells, etc. And don't tell me your Toyota was made in Kentucky! Where did the profit go???
     
  5. wingmaster78

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    Right, on Martinpicker
     
  6. Caribou woodland

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    Do you remember woo and whent USA singne a FREETRADE agrement with Canada.
    Salutations


    Pierre
     
  7. burtona

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    Try buying an American made radio,television, computer, cell phone (or any phone), dvd player, shirt, shoes, and shortly GE made X-ray and imaging equipment. You really want a GM or Chrysler made piece of junk automobile (which may be made mostly in Mexico) when you can buy a Honda, Toyoto, Nissan? I'd like to buy American made but you almost can't do it any more.
     
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    If the politicians really wanted a stimulus package that works they'd build factorys to replace what has been lost and lease them to private enterprise. Until then made in America is an oxymoron.

    Robert
     
  9. GW22

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    For anyone who recently came out of a lengthy coma, the U.S. government has been driving manufacturing out of this country for the past three decades. It's hard to buy products made in America when they're not made here anymore or when our government policies and unions make them cost three times as much.

    -Gary
     
  10. Setterman

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    Wingmaster and Martinpicker, What could be done to advance the competitiveness of American businesses so we can compete in the world market...or for that matter, the American market?

    Don't tell me "Build them plants". Thats idiotic (and socialistic) as you could never afford to build new plants for every joe blow that thinks he deserves one.
     
  11. RobertT

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    Setterman, since you believe the plants can't be replaced what would you suggest? I know, start growing lots of rice and eating fish, eventually our standards will be low enough to start over.

    Robert
     
  12. Setterman

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    Here's a start: Lower corporate taxes, abolish EMT, Freeze EPA fresh air regulations, freeze OSHA requirements and additional training mandates, Drill here, and reduce fuel costs, ease coal standards which will lower power cost, repeal Obamacare, simplify the tax code,and freeze labor laws.

    Shall I go on?
     
  13. BigBadBob

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    setterman, The international unions could organize the workers world wide to rates of pay somewhat competitive to ours. When you have an American worker in a factory making $20 an hour and you have a Chinese worker in a factory in China making the same product making $10 a day , how can we be competitive? The American company did not lower the cost of the product by the same percentage that he is saving in wages. ($1.25/hour versus $20.00 /hour)
     
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    They're even calling us degrading names like "Dry backs" and "Amer-I-Cans". It's very humiliating.
     
  15. Setterman

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    BBB, You just answered your own question, yet you and others criticize american companies for moving their production. How can they compete if they are in a global market with higher US labor rates? We are between a rock and a hard place.

    We have to give American businesses every benefit possible to eliminate non manpower overhead, yet we continue to tie their hands with regulations and taxes.

    If you have a 401K or even a union benefit/retirement package, your plan is probably vested in the same companies your bitching about, yet you want them make a profit so their stock value increases or maintains it's value.

    We truly live in a global market.
     
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