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Alliant promo loads

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  1. TIPPEDWAD

    TIPPEDWAD TS Member

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    Hi,
    Have been offered a good price on Promo powder, but cannot find any data
    on either MEC or Alliant sights. 1 ounce and 1 1/8 ounce.

    Thanks,
    Whit Haselton
     
  2. Fat Cat

    Fat Cat TS Member

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    individual needs.
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    PROMO RELOADING DATA
    PROMO™ is Alliant’s budget priced 12 gauge target shotshell powder.Available in 8 pound containers
    only, it provides economical loads that are reliable and consistent, shot after shot.
    Note - To determine the proper bushing size for PROMO™ shotshell powder, be sure to use the following procedure:
    • Select a bushing 2 sizes smaller than the one recommended for the same number of grains of Red Dot®
    from the manufacturers’ bushing chart, then...
    • Place this bushing in your reloading machine and weigh several charges on your powder scales, then...
    • Compare the weighed charge to the recommended charge weight.
    • Adjust the bushing size if necessary to obtain the desired charge weight.
    • Confirm your bushing size with each new powder lot.
    • We recommend this same procedure for confirming the correct bushing size for each new lot of PROMO.™
    • With all powders, you should routinely verify your powder charge using an accurate powder scale.
    All data are for 12 gauge, 2 3/4 inch shells
    Shot Weight Shell Velocity (FPS) Primer Wad Promo Grains
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A Fed12S0 18
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A WAA12 SL 18
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A Claybuster 1100-12 18
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,255 Fed. 209A Fed12S0 19
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,255 Fed. 209A WAA12 SL 18.5
    1 Federal Gold Medal 1,255 Fed. 209A Claybuster 1100-12 18.5
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Rem. TGT12 18
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Claybuster 1100-12 18
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Purple PC 18.5
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,255 Rem. 209P Rem. TGT12 19
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,255 Rem. 209P Claybuster 1100-12 19.5
    1 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,255 Rem. 209P Purple PC 19.5
    1 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 WAA12 SL 18
    1 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 Claybuster 1100-12 18
    1 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 Purple PC 18
    1 Winchester AA 1,255 Win. 209 WAA12 SL 19
    1 Winchester AA 1,255 Win. 209 WAA12 SL 19
    1 Winchester AA 1,255 Win. 209 Claybuster 1100-12 19
    1 Winchester AA 1,255 Win. 209 Purple PC 19
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,145 Fed. 209A Fed. 12S3 18
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,145 Fed. 209A WAA12 (white) 17.5
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,145 Fed. 209A Claybuster 3118-12 18
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A Fed. 12S3 19.5
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A WAA12 (white) 19
    1 1/8 Federal Gold Medal 1,200 Fed. 209A Claybuster 3118-12 19
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,145 Rem. 209P Figure 8 18
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,145 Rem. 209P Windjammer 17.5
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,145 Rem. 209P Claybuster 3118-12 17.5
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,145 Rem. 209P Red PC 17.5
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Figure 8 19
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Windjammer 18.5
    1 1/8 Remington STS, Nitro 27 & Premier 1,200 Rem. 209P Claybuster 3118-12 19
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,145 Win. 209 WAA12 (white) 17
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,145 Win. 209 Figure 8 17.5
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,145 Win. 209 Windjammer 17.5
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,145 Win. 209 Claybuster 3118-12 17
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,145 Win. 209 Red PC 17.5
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 WAA12 (white) 18
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 Figure 8 18.5
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 Windjammer 18.5
    1 1/8 Winchester AA 1,200 Win. 209 Claybuster 3118-12 18
    1 1/8 Winchester
     
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Use Red Dot data, but a scale is necessary. Promo varies greatly in weight from one jug to another.

    HM
     
  4. esoxhunter

    esoxhunter Well-Known Member

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    Whit: I too have yet to try the "Promo" powder. I just purchased 2 - 8# bottles and have yet to try it. I'm sure someone on here will give us some input. I am under the impression that you load the Promo usng the same recipe as Red Dot. However, I guess Promo is not as bulky as Red Dot; therefore to throw the same grains of powder you will need a different bushing. Ed
     
  5. Fat Cat

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    Alliant catalog, page 30. I copied and paste, but it is hard to read.
     
  6. TIPPEDWAD

    TIPPEDWAD TS Member

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    Thanks Folks,
    That pretty much clears it up. As always, appreciate the help.
    Whit Haselton
     
  7. phirel

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    Promo is a very good relatively inexpensive powder. By weight it will preform identical to Red Dot (eg. 18 grains of Red Dot = 18 grains of Promo). It does require a different bushing to throw 18 grains of Promo than 18 grains of Red Dot. Also, a bushing that will throw 18 grains of one lot of Promo may throw a different weight from another lot of Promo.

    Alliant has kept the price of Promo low by not standardizing weights from lot to lot. This is also true for OEM powders sold to shell manufacturers.

    Pat Ireland
     
  8. Shotgunbutch

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    I just finished shooting 8 lbs of Promo loaded in one ounce loads. The powder metered well in my MEC. The shells all went bang. I did not think the burnt powder left my barrels overly dirty. However, some of the shot did not go where I wanted.

    Shoot well,
    Arnie
     
  9. SShooterZ

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    LOL @ Arnie.. I've had the same problem!

    Seriously though, I've used a lot of Promo and I think its great stuff.
     
  10. Quack Shot

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    Download the guide at the link above. Check page 30 for Promo data. Alliant is somewhat stingy with data on some of their powders, but Red Dot data could be used, provided you are not using loads at the upper limits of pressure. Bushings will be a few sizes under what you might have used for Red Dot and you MUST weigh your powder drops and recheck them, especially when you open a new jug of powder. It can vary greatly from lot to lot.

    It's a good powder and does appear to require reasonable pressure for complete burning and consistency. It certainly is about one of the least expensive powders out there.
     
  11. midalake

    midalake Well-Known Member

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    I have been shooting Promo before most of anyone heard of it. About 5-6 years now. It is a good powder, not too many issues as long as you stay above 17 grains. I have seen different batches weight different. I just started a different lot number and had to lower a bushing. One MUST weight their charges. Alliant still maintains you can swap for any Red Dot recpie.

    GS
     
  12. 3dram8

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    Arnie, MY shot ALWAYS goes where I'm shooting. The problem is that the target doesn't always get THROWN where I'm shooting. .....Rick
     
  13. mike31z

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    I am about to got to 7/8 loads for 16 yards.
    here is a extract from my alliat book.

    <a href=" http://pigusch.com/Trap/promodata.PDF" target="_blank">promodata.pdf</a> <br> <br>

    I have STS shells, AA shell. I have a lot of Green Dusters and Blue Duster in supply and I normally use promo.
     
  14. drh08

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    I started using Promo powder last fall and burnt up my 1st 8lbs of it and ordered another. But the weather got much colder in Minnesota and the powder didn’t always go bang. The cold weather performance of my batch was much worse in a straight walled shell than tapered but both proved a problem. I wouldn’t shoot this powder in a gun below about 45 degrees with any confidence anymore. I would like to clarify the dirty part of Promo powder. It’s not the amount of residue left in the barrel that you would think of as a dirty powder. Promo left the empty hulls with a black coating of graphite at the opening. The first 1 or 2 times you reload a hull you won’t notice it too bad with a visual inspection but after that you hands become blackened from handling the empty hulls. From my experience Promo powder will decrease the number of times you can reload a hull. They seem to split much faster with this powder and I have no explanation. I considered the cost savings but 1 or 2 rounds in cold weather when the shells don’t perform pretty much wipes out any cost savings you thought you were getting. Because of the black residue on the hulls and the cold weather performance I experienced I went back to my origional powder. Please keep in mind that powder is only 1 component of a shell, I attempted using different components to make Promo work without success, but it just became too much work so I quit using it.
    Please keep in mind the costs of a shell is only one part of the cost of shooting and if you have problems with your shells you incure the expense of the other parts of the round of shooting making that one round very expensive.
     
  15. Quack Shot

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    To alleviate cold weather surprizes, I test many loads by putting them in the freezer overnight and then running them over a chronograph while still quite cold. I have found that some powders need to be loaded at high enough pressures to perform well in cold weather. Some "light" loads just don't do well because they are simply too light to develop enough pressure for the powder to burn properly and it becomes quite evident at low temperatures. Also some powder and primer combinations don't do well in some instances. Somtimes a different primer or wad combination works better. Promo is certainly not the only powder that could have cold weather issues. I use it a in cold weather and it works quite well for me. I've eliminated a few combinations that gave poor cold weather performance.
     
  16. phirel

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    Quack Shot- More shooters should either test their reloads in cold weather or not shoot in cold weather. I elect the later.

    Testing discount shells at low temperatures would result in some surprises and convert a few back to reloading.

    Pat Ireland
     
  17. SShooterZ

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    (Overheard at QuackShot's House)

    "Honey, can you grab me the frozen peas? They're right next to the 1oz Promo loads."

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  18. Quack Shot

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    SShooterZ

    Nah, they're in the freezer downstairs over the refrigerator with the extra beer next to the frozen turkey. The Green Dot loads are in the upstairs freezer with the vegetables. I have them color coordinated and properly filed. :)
     
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