1. We have added the ability for anyone to 'bump' threads that they have created. This is mainly useful in the classifieds area where posters constantly bump for sale threads to bring it to the top. This allows them the ability to do that without having to clutter the thread with extra 'TTT' and 'Bump' type posts. To bump it, go inside your thread and click on 'Thread Tools' at the top, then select 'bump'. You can bump only once per 24 hour period.

    For more detailed information please see this post: Thread Bump Functionality.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Age of AA shot shells (20 box case)

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by gnprts, Apr 21, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. gnprts

    gnprts Member

    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    133
    Any idea about age of plastic 12 gauge AA's packed in 20 boxes to the case? White box .... Yellow cardboard case.... How long has it been since the change was made to 10 box flats? Thanks
     
  2. acorange

    acorange Well-Known Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,125
    Location:
    S.E. Iowa
    I am probably wrong but I say they were made late 60's to mid 70's.
    I thought that the yellow box inset was changed to red in the late 70's early 80's.
    I am sure that some ammo experts/collectors will correct me.
     
  3. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,521
    Location:
    Idaho
    I shot a lot of them in the early 80's
     
  4. bdshooter

    bdshooter Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    166
    If you get the LOT number off the the box of shell and call Winchester they will tell you all you want to know about these shells.
     
  5. EuroJoe

    EuroJoe TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Rating - 100%
    2   0   0

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    3,355
    Location:
    Rockford,IL
    must be pretty old, red, not yellow!
     
  6. BDodd

    BDodd TS Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,594
    It seems to me "flats" instead of "Cases" became the big thing (10 boxes vs 20) around the mid-1980s. It was always my opinion the companies made this move to make it seem like the cost of shells wasn't so bad after the true case reached or at least approached $100. The flats were easier of the weak at heart to move around too. But, I don't remember the yellow, AA case - then I remember very little most times anyway......Bob Dodd
     
  7. Tripod

    Tripod Well-Known Member

    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,354
    Location:
    Iowa man!!
    I bought some black handicap hulls in the early 70's I remember. Still have a few somewhere I bet.
     
  8. Pull & Mark

    Pull & Mark Well-Known Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,410
    gnprts, I too say around 30 years old, give or take abit. I have those same boxes with yellow and with red inside the AA border line. Mine are empty and have been told they are not a collectable item. Yours with the original shells in those boxes with the original case might be something someone would want though. Call Win. and give them the lot number as per above and find out. Good Luck and break-em all. Jeff
     
  9. wayneo

    wayneo Active Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,002
    I'm thinking late sixties, early seventies. The 20 gauge AA boxes I have that look like yours are paper hulls. Wayne




    [​IMG]
     
  10. Hitapair

    Hitapair Active Member

    Rating - 100%
    6   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,344
    The yellow shipping case was around in the mid 70's as I remember buying a case at Herters. How much later they were still available, I'm not sure.
     
  11. gun1357

    gun1357 Active Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    927
    There should be a date on the bottom of the case showing when it was made. This is probably within 90 days of the date the shells were made. Ron
     
  12. oldgahchamp

    oldgahchamp Active Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,263
    I broke my first 100 straight with Winchester trap loads in yellow and black boxes in 1974. Somewhere in my "stuff" I think I still have half a case of them. Larry Evans
     
  13. Duck Head

    Duck Head TS Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    235
    The "flats" were invented for UPS. 20 bx cases were too heavy for some of their drivers.It was common knowledge when it happened.I bought 20 bx cases as late as 1986.
     
  14. EuroJoe

    EuroJoe TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Rating - 100%
    2   0   0

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    3,355
    Location:
    Rockford,IL
    Isn't the some kind of law that insists that 20ga shells be yellow??
     
  15. creek

    creek Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    276
    Location:
    New Bern. NC
    Is there any "collector value" to the old yellow or red label empty boxes? I have a large amount of them and hated to use them in reloading in case they are gaining value.
    John
     
  16. pheasantmaster

    pheasantmaster Well-Known Member

    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,049
    As being stated by some, these were made starting in about 73 and continuing into late 70's. as for your shells, since you didn't show a pic of the letter/shell, doest it have a t at the end of the load designation.? Does it say "plus" on the shell? Does the box have a plus somewhere aroung the AA? These would also be helpful in detemening era.
     
  17. gnprts

    gnprts Member

    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    133
    Picture of box flap with code.......... Bottom of case has WC725 but no date....





    gnprts_2008_0303.jpg
     
  18. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Well-Known Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    7,538
    Location:
    Oxford MA
    I have a friend that used to be the Trap chairman at the local club here in MA. He also sold components and shells. I had a heavy duty Pickup around 89-90 and some time off.

    He was looking for someone to go to the western part of MA and pick up what he said were the last 20 box cases on the east coast. I volunteered to pick them up and another friend offered to help.

    So we went and got them he didn't tell me they were 52 pounds per case and I never even thought about it. He had 50 cases needless to say it was an interesting ride.

    Those was the last 20 box cases I can ever remember seeing for sale. As I said the 89 or 90. Can't for the life of me remember what color the cases or the boxes in them were.

    Bob Lawless
     
  19. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Well-Known Member

    0   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    7,538
    Location:
    Oxford MA
    gnprts you really tweaked my curiosity with this post so I made a couple of phone call.

    Winchester Ammunition says that the number on the flap of the box say that those shells were made in 1969, on November 17. I was amazed and asked the guy what time it was made? I am not sure he was to happy about that but I explained I was joking and he didn't say to much more. He couldn't tell me exactly when the 20 box cases went out of production other than to say at least 25 years ago. Which would mean about 1985.

    That of course make those shells 41 years old this November probably older than your children if you have any.

    Bob Lawless
     
  20. gnprts

    gnprts Member

    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    133
    Wow! Bob thanks for the help. I called Winchester but got a recording.. Just my luck. You are right the shells are the same age as my son. Thanks to all that responded to my thread. This is a great site with knowledgeable people. Trap shooters are the best! Wayne
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.