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Advice on Powder (Red Dot, Clay Dot, Clays etc.)

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by todman2, Nov 27, 2011.

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  1. todman2

    todman2 Member

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    I need aome advice on powder for reloading 12ga. I started playing with an 1100 again and I have been shooting a 1 oz load with Green Dot. I barely get through a hundred targets before the gun stops ejecting shells. I clean the gun and its good to go again.

    I am looking for the best of all worlds cost, clean burning, low recoil.

    Please share your results and data. I really like the 1100 but need to make sure I can get through a 100 targets.

    Thanks
    Todman
     
  2. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    Clays, or 700X.
     
  3. jdsfarms

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    Clatdot,burns clean and is much less expensive than clays but you can use the same reloading data.Jerry
     
  4. John55

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    Several of us have been using Clay Dot for our 1oz loads and the stuff seems to burn very clean, after 100 targets the inside of the barrel looks almost unfired. We are using between 17grs and 17.5grs in Rem. STS hulls with TGT style wads, speeds are in the 1200fps area and recoil is mostly non-existant. Your trouble with Green Dot is that it is a fairly slow burning powder and under a 1oz load is likely not developing enough pressure to get a really clean burn, which only gets worse in cold temps. Use a faster burning powder like Clays, Clay Dot or Red Dot and you shouldn't need to clean the gun nearly as often.
     
  5. wayneo

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    I've never had a problem with 1 ounce loads using Green Dot, but you have to keep pressures up with 1 ounce loads. A minimum of 19.5 grains = 1200 fps, 7500 psi. 1250 fps and 8800 psi is even better. Rem hull, Green Duster, Win 209.

    Wayne
     
  6. short shucker

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    Red Dot and Promo are clean burning if you get the pressures up a little into the 9,000 psi and above territory.

    The absolute cleanest burning powder I've ever used has to be Clays. Reguardless of the load, it remains the cleanest.

    Green Dot is a great powder, but a little dirty burning in light payloads.

    ss
     
  7. Hammer1

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    When I started loading trap shotshells in earnest, Spolar recommended Hodgdon Clays for my trap loads.

    For me, Clays has worked fine in loads ranging from low recoil 7/8 ounce loads to full power 1-1/8 ounce loads.

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  8. 4th. down

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    If you need to go fast, 1300fps. and clean, E3, but it's more expensive than Green Dot, Clay Dot, etc. (about $10 more for 8lb. jug). To me, with an auto it's the best way to go IMHO. Get your pressure up to about 9000psi and your velocity around 1250fps. clay Dot and Red Dot are okay but E3 handles the pressure better if your looking for speed above 1250fps.
     
  9. JACK

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    your best bet is to pull off after about 50 shots and wipe the mag tub with a shop cloth. Reassemble and all the above recommendations will be fine. Clays, Red dot, or Promo for your next jug.
     
  10. Ross

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    Another vote for 700X, Clays would be my next choice have used both & give the edge to 700X. I have dropped down to 7\8oz--STS hull--16gr. 700X-- medium strength primer--TGT or AA (or CB clone)--7\8oz shot I use #8s mainly for pellet count, don't shoot much registered anymore when I do I go up to 1oz or just buy new. Ross Puls
     
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    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    I have no problems with light loads using PB in my 1100 but it's a pretty costly powder.

    Ed
     
  12. Dr.Longshot

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    PROMO

    Also least expensive



    Gary Bryant
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  13. TinMan88

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    As others have stated, the pressure # is a factor in how much of the powder actually lights off and burns without soot. A 1oz load will not hold the burn speed/pressure high enough to stay in the proper operating range. Select a powder that would reflect a published number 9,000 to 10,000 for 1oz in your data charts. TM
     
  14. School Teacher

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    I like Alliant E3 for my 1100 TB and 11/87 Premier Trap. I load 16.9 grains of E3 in the STS hull with a Remington TGT12S wad, Remington 209P primer and 1 oz of magnum 8's. Velocity is 1200 fps and pressure is 8550 psi per the Alliant web site.

    The load always cycles the action and is very clean. I thoroughly clean my 1100 and/or 11/87 every 500 rounds or after a two day shoot.

    Ed Ward
     
  15. warren

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    e3 is the cleanest powder I know of it is also made in the USA. All the others I've used don't come up to it.

    warren
     
  16. 2500 HD

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    I shoot a 1100. I use red dot 18.5 gr. Wind Jammer wad, STS hulls. Win. primer. I have no problems. I shoot 6000 -7000 rounds a year and seriously clean the inside of my gun twice a year whether it needs it or not!!! LOL Just wipe the outside and it hasn't let me down.
     
  17. mrskeet410

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    Promo plus BreakFree CLP.
     
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    I've used Clay Dot for the last 3 years. Clean, priced reasonably and you can use the recipes for Clays.

    I shoot 7/8 oz loads with 16.9 grains of Clay dot.
     
  19. todman2

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    Thanks everyone
     
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    Solo 1000 is the cleanest powder I have ever seen. 20gr with an ounce is a sweet little shell.
     
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