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ACORN going after gunowners.....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Brian in Oregon, Nov 14, 2008.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    But but but... Obama supports Second Amendment rights. The Fudds told me so!<br>
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    OFFICIALS SET SIGHTS ON GUNOWNERS<br>
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    Jim Kouri<br>
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    ACORN, the publicly funded national organization linked to voter fraud in several states is now actively interfering with the exercise of firearm civil rights in New Jersey, and the Second Amendment Foundation is calling for an immediate federal investigation.<br>
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    One example of ACORN's gun control activism is when its officials intervened in an unsuccessful attempt to defend Jersey City, New Jersey's local gun control ordinance, which was struck down December 13, 2006 in New Jersey state court as a violation of state law pre-empting stronger local gun ordinances.<br>
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    "ACORN has, since 1998, received an estimated $31 million in government funding," said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. "Now they have intervened in a New Jersey gun rights case in defense of an illegal Jersey City one-gun-a-month ordinance that violates the state preemption statute."<br>
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    "For the past few election cycles," Gottlieb noted, "ACORN has clearly grown more partisan toward the political Left. ACORN'S PAC has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for president. That's hardly surprising since he used to serve as their legal counsel and he taught the group about community organizing. ACORN and Obama are lockstep in seeking to destroy our Second Amendment rights," he stated.<br>
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    "The organization is currently under FBI investigation over allegations of voter fraud in several states," he added.<br>
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    "Bad enough that ACORN is implicated in fraudulent activities in several states, but now an ACORN chapter in the Garden State is working against the ability of New Jersey gun owners to exercise a constitutionally protected individual civil right to own a handgun," said former NYPD detective, Sid Frances.<br>
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    "It is an outrage that this group has intervened to defend an antigun ordinance that has already been declared illegal by the court," he observed. "So long as ACORN accepts one penny of public funding, the organization should remain absolutely neutral on social issues, political campaigns and especially legal actions defending the right to keep and bear arms."<br>
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    "We call upon the FBI to expand the scope of its ACORN investigation and focus on the group's involvement in the Jersey City case," Gottlieb stated.<br>
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    "We support Ohio Congressman John Boehner's request that the White House immediately block all federal funding of ACORN activities until this group's questionable activities are fully investigated. We want to know how they are paying for attorneys, and why Seton Hall's Center for Social Justice and the Public Interest Law Center are providing legal assistance to ACORN for this effort."<br>
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    "This is still the United States, not a socialist gulag," Gottlieb concluded. "Public money should not be given to private organizations which then turn around and utilize that funding to usurp the electoral process and erode constitutionally guaranteed civil rights."<br>
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    Other political observers see something more sinister at play with Obama and ACORN's interest in disarming law-abiding citizens.<br>
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    "This gun control effort is part of an overall government takeover by the radical left who now control the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives. The next part of the Obama-ACORN plan is a new military force separate from the US Armed Forces," claims political strategist Mike Baker.<br>
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    "Obama has called for a 'civilian national security force' as powerful as the US military, comments that were ignored by the vast majority of the corporate media but compared by conservatives to the Nazi Hitler Youth," warns Baker.<br>
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    "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded," said Senator Obama during his campaign.<br>
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    The idea wasn't Obama’s but Robert Gates’ which might explain why Obama is toying with the idea of keeping him on in his administration, claims Det. Frances.<br>
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    "An Obama Administration will accelerate the rush toward the New-World Order: first, by confiscating privately owned weapons, followed by creating a military force that would have jurisdiction within the US mainland. It will happen sooner than we believed," said the decorated former New York police officer.
     
  2. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    Brian.....

    It's gonna get worse.....with this ragtag, entitlement folks in a position of semi-power, they will attempt to push their agenda onto all of us.

    Curt
     
  3. bobdog

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    It's not clear to me how such a transparently partisan liberal political organization has legally qualified for $31 million in federal dollars. That strikes me as illegal on its face and possibly grounds for a RICO prosecution, not to mention their intrusion into the 2008 election process. They are not, and never have been, a "Get out the Vote" organization, and it is a transparent lie to describe them as such.
     
  4. BT-100dc

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    Maybe these people will be the new security squad; they trash the voting system with minimal (?) prosecution; best of all their organization gets your tax money. Feed the beast and give them support in high places and see what you get. I've contacted Rep. Boehner plus two other Republican Senators (Texas & Nevada) to express my outrage. Also remember that Pelosi wanted ACORN to receive money if any money would be made on the original bailout. These people seem to get stronger as they incorporate thuggery (as demonstrated with their bank loaning tactics) and feed off our tax money. This outrages me as this group metamorphoses to other Constitutional rights. I predict we'll see more and more of this.
     
  5. shark1

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    NJ the most corrupt state in the nation. I am from NJ and it was excellent to grow up in, but the strong arm democratic party killed that state. This state had a special prosicuter for cases involving any firearm. Its a communist state that suppress any freedom unless you are involved in the pay to play scam. There is basicly no republican party. Call it dem. or dem lite. Pro gunners are not welcome, and that is a major reason why I left. The democrats in this state are nasty communist minded people. They will get their dose, and are with wall street tanking. I can go on for hours or pages but my point is that acorn has a friend in the most corrupt state. There still are some good people left in that state but growing fewer by the day.
    PS I will pay for the the dems on this site to move to NJ and live in the location of my choice. They will be republican after that gersture, ( Perth Amboy, Camden, Trenton, Jersey City, Irvington, ect.) I will even put nice gold chains on there neck and a fancy watch on there wrist. Does any want to join me and watch? I will be the drinks!
    Dems are in?
    Mike Sharkey, DC
     
  6. pendennis

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    Plus One to what Shark1 wrote. In 2002, when Robert "The Torch" Toricelli was about to lose to a Republican (Forrester), he resigned from the race, allowing Frank Lautenberg to take his place, a violation of state law. However, the corrupt Supreme Court allowed the change to stand, and Lautenberg was elected.

    Vote early, vote often.

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  7. AJ100

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    Law 3, Conceal your Intentions

    Law 4, Always Say Less than Necessary

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  8. shark1

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    Acorn and New jersey, perfect together. Gov Corzine knows best- Tax you and tax your guns. Need I say more.
    Mike Sharkey, DC
     
  9. 22hornet

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    Trenton is the Capitol, right?. My goodness, have you seen Trenton? WOW!!!
     
  10. shark1

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    Trenton is the capital. No its Moscow.
    Any Dems moving yet?
    Mike Sharkey, DC
     
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