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Accidental shot with no call

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by glenns, May 22, 2013.

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  1. glenns

    glenns Member

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    Just started to shoot a release trigger this past Sunday and had a question - if during an ATA event I 'accidentally' release the trigger without calling for a bird I assume there is no consequence, e.g. not a lost bird. I would just reload and call for the bird.

    Is that correct?
     
  2. Prescott Gene

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    You would be correct as long as no whole target is in the air. If there is a whole target in the air and a shot is fired, results are scored. That is, unless the referee calls "No Target" before said shot is fired with a whole target in the air. At least that would be my thought.

    Any further comment?

    Prescott Gene (transplanted to Dublin)
     
  3. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Prescott Jack. Transplant from Lake Geneva
     
  4. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    Its a nothing. Don't do it too often though.
     
  5. jhoward

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    Just try not to hit the speaker cords....
     
  6. Butler

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    Dave8 is correct, If it is your turn to shoot. and an unbroken target appears, the results of the shot are scored Jim
     
  7. miketmx

    miketmx Well-Known Member

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    If you are in the process of setting your release trigger and it fires that is known as Pull Through and you had better get the trigger fixed ASAP.
     
  8. Big Al 29

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    Hence the reason to outlaw release triggers.

    "Accidental shot"

    "Pull through"

    They are too dangerous especially those who are new to the complete backwards way EVERYONE was taught to shoot a gun.

    In "the moment" you will forget what you are doing and "BOOM".

    Trap houses shot, cords shot. Its just unsafe.

    Stiffin up your trigger!!! Thay will cure you of you aliments. Shoot light loads, etc... there are SAFER, and I mean SAFER, ways to handle your flinch.
     
  9. perazzi03

    perazzi03 TS Member

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    outlaw release triggers, sounds like a goverment solution.dont be stupid
     
  10. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    that would be like outlawing all guns because of one being defective...after three or four of those "pull thru's"...nobody will ever notice any after that because I'm sure you'll be shooting by yourself
     
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    If proper protocol is followed, the gun will be loaded only when ready to shoot and will never be pointed in an unsafe direction. So, I don't see mistakes in the use of release triggers as particularly dangerous. Have there ever been accidents in which injuries were caused by a release trigger?
     
  12. jhoward

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    I'm pretty sure a few folks have had 'accidents' when their, or someone near them's, release has gone off unexpectedly.
     
  13. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    Just as pull triggers have gone off when readjusting mounts, swatting dragonflies, etc. its
    Still the shooter.
     
  14. Ken Brandt

    Ken Brandt Active Member

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    Outlaw release triggers!!!! There'e another brilliant idea. We have enough trouble retaining people in the sport and now you think forcing maybe another 20% to quit is a good thing. Come on, get real.
     
  15. Barry C. Roach

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    Nothing wrong with release triggers, UNLESS, the shooter proves him/herself incapable of being safe.

    If it's your turn and you fire on a released target, it appears whole and unbroken, the results are scored, lost or dead. The act of firing at the target is considered deliberate.
     
  16. mike campbell

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    "The act of firing at the target is considered deliberate."

    Let's see....I have an equipment malfunction with a target in the air, it's considered deliberate, and it's scored.

    But the act of not firing at a target, even though there was no equipment malfunction, is considered involuntary.

    I flinch, it's considered involuntary, so I get a do-over....twice. Why not an unlimited number of times? Why is it OK to not take responsibility the first 2 times, but the third time I get penalized? What happened between the second and third occurrences to justify a penalty? Is the third flinch any more voluntary than the first two?

    So many questions, so much to learn about trap.
     
  17. Dave Berlet

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    Buck who ever you might be. Please remember that the release trigger has been a major player in the sport of trapshooting for more years than I have been involved and I am sure more years than you have been involved.

    My question is why do you want to drive a significant percentage of our shooters out of the sport? We all should be trying to bring new shooters into our sport. Your mindset appears to be that a little Viagra applied to the trigger would take care of everyones problem.

    Dave Berlet
     
  18. Big Al 29

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    Ok, shoot the traphouse and cords and scare the shit out of everyone.

    my bad.

    Dave or whoever you really may be, there is nothing wrong with a little Viagra too for them 20%ers. Have any of them ever tried increasing the weight of their trigger?
     
  19. jhoward

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    If you are having trouble pulling the trigger as it is, how is increasing the pull weight going to help?
     
  20. BigM-Perazzi

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    I imagine he's referring to increasing the set weight on the release..
     
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