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accidental discharge

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by KENENT1, Jan 18, 2009.

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  1. KENENT1

    KENENT1 Active Member

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    Been shooting all my life, trapshooting for 10 years, and have always taken pride with my gun safety.

    Often wonder how people could be so reckless as to shoot the back of the trap house, or the cord.

    Switched to a release trigger about 6 weeks ago, and have been doing very well......1000 to 1200 rounds.

    Well Saturday, started on station 1, closed the gun to call for a bird, before I mounted the gun, (with winter gloves on)I shot the back of the trap house!!!!

    I always keep my gun pointed in a saft direction, but I can not believe that I made a mistake like this!!!!

    Has this happened to you??? how did it make you feel???


    tony
     
  2. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    not yet. I've been shooting a release for 2 years. I suppose "yet" is the operative word.
     
  3. TC

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    Tony, I always "set" the release when shouldered, never before. Tony
     
  4. esoxhunter

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    Tony: The discharge of a firearm, (when it should not be discharged), is not an accident. It is a result of negligent behavior. (Unless of course the gun is proven to have been discharged due to a mechanical defect). That being said, I'm sure numerous other shooters, (to include myself), have had an unwarranted discharge while on the range. We learn from these "mistakes", (not accidents). You now understand more than ever, that keeping the gun pointed downrange is imperative, while handling a loaded firearm. How does it make me feel? Well a little embarrassed. (as before retirement I was a firearms instructor). However, again I commend you in the safe handling of a loaded gun. Keeping the gun downrange with your finger off the trigger until ready to fire is of the utmost importance. I might add that some shooters tend to blame the release trigger for these types of discharges. It's not the trigger. Keeping the gun downrange; whether it is a pull or a release trigger, is something that all shooters should have ingrained in their mind. Ed
     
  5. ysr_racer

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    I stopped reading after "Switched to a release trigger". I won't shoot on the same squad as guys shooting RT's.

    All your life, you've been "pulling the trigger", try walking upstairs backwards, and let me know how that works for you.
     
  6. ivanhoe

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    " I won't shoot on the same squad as guys shooting RT's. All your life, you've been "pulling the trigger", try walking upstairs backwards, and let me know how that works for you."

    So Let me get this straight almost all humans walk up right on their own to feet. After a problem of some type they become paralyzed. So your advice to these people would be stay home and don't learn to use a wheel chair because you have been walking all your life.

    You are a trap shooter you have an accident you are now unable to pull the trigger. ysr_racer says you have been pulling the trigger all your life you can no longer shoot. Because he and people like him won't shoot with you.

    ysr_racer you have a lot of balls pal or not much in the Brain locker I will let everyone choose which it is. I have already made my decision.

    Bob Lawless
     
  7. KENENT1

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    I don't think it was the release that caused the discharge(notice I left off the accidental...because I agree with esoxhunter)I think it had more to do with the winter gloves and the weather.....but I still can't believe I have joined the rankes of the careless few that I really try to avoide.


    tony
     
  8. esoxhunter

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    ysr_racer: Your ignorance shows. No doubt about it. But before you get "defensive"; look up the meaning of someone who is ignorant. Oh well; I will do it for you. "Ignorance is the lack of knowledge or information about a subject". Therefore, you sir are ignorant or show your ignorance in the area of discussion regarding release triggers. Ed
     
  9. maclellan1911

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    I have often seen many release and pull trigger shooters with the finger on the trigger before the gun is shouldered.
     
  10. BILL GRILL

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    Yes Sir it does happen and when it does you get to paint the trap house! I did it once with a gun that had excess slack in the trigger. Use to mount the gun take out the slack and call for the bird. Mounted her up took out the slack and blasted the trap house! Get out the paint DUMMY! Sometimes you you have to be humble. Bill
     
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    ysr_racer,,,,if someone with a "normal" had a ND,,,,would you then say "I won't shoot on the same squad as guys shooting PT's"????

    Must shoot a lot by yourself. ;) :D
     
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    As a frequent scorer (30 plus years) and a shooter, I always make sure that all muzzles are pointed downrange when their action is closed. When changing stations, I insist that actions are opened. I have seen cords shot, guns discharged upon closing, and shooting the traphouse. Usually the shooting of the traphouse is generally done by shooters using a release trigger. Nothing wrong with this but it does happen. What scares me the most are people using empty shells as snapcaps. I was at a shoot one time and a guy was in the parking lot and closed his gun, it discharged and blew out a car window. I think that guy had to check his pants... Darrell
     
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    I have not YET, shot the back of a trap house, after shooting since 1958.

    I am a Professional Firearms Trainer, and Clay Target Coach. I train all kinds of folks with Rifle, Handgun, and Shotgun. I train both Defensive and Sport Shooting, and specialize in new and problem shooters. I have had several close calls with careless shooters, generally because of inattention of other Trainers.

    With this said, I occasionally shoot a borrowed release gun, and most certainly WILL get on the line with a release shooter.

    As long as the primary safety of the firearm is used, I will be okay if the fellow shoots the trap house.

    What is the primary safety of ANY firearm? MUZZLE DIRECTION. Tony, I will get on the line with you any day. :^)
     
  14. BILL GRILL

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    One of my buddies Dad's told us you never been drunk till you sh!t your pants.
    Another form of accidental discharge. LOL
     
  15. ivanhoe

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    "The discharge of a firearm, (when it should not be discharged), is not an accident. It is a result of negligent behavior."

    Ed I will agree with this under certain situations. For an example I owned a Browning single barrel trap(I think we all know what model)on one occasion I close the gun as the shooter on my right had just fired at his target. It went off in the ground in front of the line about 8-10 yds. I know without a doubt that I did not touch the trigger.

    The gun was only a few months old and I took it to my gun repair guy he could find no reason for a malfunction. I owned it for another year and a half(it was a plus and started having recoil system problems) and I fixed it and sold it.

    About a year later I saw the person I sold it to he was not shooting it I asked why he said he could not trust it because it would go off when it was closed so he didn't shoot it any more.

    An accidental discharge is possible.

    Bob Lawless
     
  16. esoxhunter

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    Bob: If you look again at my 1st reply, you will note that I said, "Unless the gun had a proven mechanical defect". In your case this is a distinct possibility. My son used to shoot an 870TB and one day he had his gun discharge into the ground in front of him, when he closed the action. He swears his finger was outside the trigger guard when this happened. (This is another thing I used to teach). Finger outside the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot. Hell, I even carry my cordless drill with my fore finger placed along side of the drill. (No kidding) To sum it up; yes, accidental discharges happen. (As in your case), In most cases they don't. Ed
     
  17. Bocephas

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    I have never shot the trap house.I have shot in the ground before the trap house.As they say #hit happens to the best of us.

    Bocephas
     
  18. ExFedex

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    Have had it happen twice. First was a BT-99 with a pull trigger that fired on closing. Second was when relatively new with the release trigger in a Rem. 1100. Got hit with a wind gust that put me off balance at the Las Vegas Gun club. Missed the houses on both occasions. Set it on your shoulder and practice unsetting it. You will do fine.
     
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    Subject: accidental discharge

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    I stopped reading after "Switched to a release trigger". I won't shoot on the same squad as guys shooting RT's.

    All your life, you've been "pulling the trigger", try walking upstairs backwards, and let me know how that works for you.




    ysr_racer - you must have a hard time finding a squad?

    FRedmon

    PS - I will take my chances with a squad of release trigger shooters compared to you with a pull trigger and a kindey stone:)
     
  20. Delbert

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    What's so hard about walking backwards?
     
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