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A childhood friend who never changed!

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  1. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

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    Hello:
    Recently, my wife and I were bored as our own children are adults with their own familes to raise, and no longer live at home. As we were looking for something to do we found out that a local church had carnival/fund raiser, to raise money. They have lots of good food, as it's a family atsmosphere.

    One gal came up to us asking if we would were staying for the raffel for the automobile? I told her I was unaware that they raffeling off a car, as thousands of people purchased tickets to help the church raise funds.

    Not to long afterwards the raffel took place and low and behold the man on the microphone on the stage handling the rafel was a childhood friend of mine that I grow up with in the housing projects. This man as a kid was always in trouble. I remember one time he stole the collection offering at our church and the police were called. Another time he was playing with matches with his cousins at a local lumber yard, and basically burned the place down.

    As he got older as a teenager, he was often picked up by the police and escorted from his home in handcuffs and placed in the back seat of a squad car. My parents did not like that I played with him as a child, as they predicted he would someday be in prison.

    As I watched him handle the raffel, I was happy to see that he was able to straighen himself out. I told my wife as a child, the church would be out the rafel money if he had handled the rafel when I knew him.

    The time came where he reached into a large bin and pulled out a card with a number and a name on it. as he reads off the name he appeared shocked and let everyone know that his own cousin was the winner of the car?

    For the people who did not grow up with him, and did not really know him, they laughed as they said what a coincidence, or was it? After he came down from the stage I called his name, and we hugged each other as it had been 40 years since we last saw each other. He said he changed his ways since I knew him as a kid, and he now does a lot of charity work for the church. After a half hour we said our goodbyes.

    On the way home I told my wife if he has truley changed that's fantastic. If he was still the same guy I once knew, the raffel was rigged as his cousin will be selling the car and splitting the proceeds with him.

    As I sit typing this thread, I hope that the fact his cousin won the vehicle was simply a coincidence and nothing more. For his sake, I only hope it was legit.
    Steve Balistreri
     
  2. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    Zebra's do not change their stripes.

    Thieves are always thieves. The only thing that changes is the date on the calendar and their M.O.

    Curt
     
  3. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Can't change the spots on a leapord. It was rigged. I knew guys like that in the projects also. They are dead or in jail. Bulge.
     
  4. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

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    Curt:
    On the title of my thread, I was intended to end my sentence with a question mark. I wonder if I had one of those Freudian slip's?
    Steve
     
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  6. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

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    Bulge:
    I know the same type of guys from the projects. The reason I did not end up in jail or dead was my mother and father broke numerous boards of education over my rear end when I did something wrong. I was afraid of what she would say and do to me if I messed up.
    Steve
     
  7. senior smoke

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    I just got a PM from some guy that said my parents should have had Social Services called on them for spanking me?? I wonder if more parents held their children accountable if there would be as much disrespect for the police, teachers, and adults today? All I had to envision was my dad reaching for his belt when I was deciding if I was going to do something bad or not, and that alone scared me into doing the right thing.
    Steve
     
  8. grntitan

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    When i was in school all the way thru High School, they pattled kids that were bad at school. If you got one at school, you could bet your bottom dollar one was coming at home then too. I'll say on a public forum that my kids not only get time-outs but their butts whipped as well. I think when done properly there is nothing wrong with it. Probably what's wrong with alot of these kids today. No proper discipline.
     
  9. porky

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    grnberetcj-glad to see that you have such a good outlook on life. I thank God that he picked the Apostles that he did. Basically all of them were thieves or worse. But I guess that would never happen in your world.

    Steve, Glad to see you were able to find an old friend and he has been able to get back on the staight and narrow.
     
  10. wolfram

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    I ran around with a kid like that too. He was my best bud but even then I knew he was nothing but trouble. Well by all accounts he turned into a pretty good man and has a nice family.

    If you really want to know about your old friend you should do more than just assume what is character is today - spend some time (which you have) with him then make your judgement call.
     
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    Well Steve, I guess I was lucky. My parents never used a board, they used a razor strap. I found out one day that when you hide the razor strap make sure that its not just half of a strap because the other half is still around. lol
     
  12. senior smoke

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    My uncle was a barber, and he used that strap many of times on my cousins.
    Steve
     
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    My bet is he still is as shifty as he was when younger . Just found the right place to do his deeds . Had someone prominent in my town who checked Bingo cards and his girl friend always was a winner since he called back the right numbers . His wife had no clue ??? She never went to Bingo .
     
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    My Dad didn't believe in the razor strap. That damn Lilac bush sure as hell brings back memories. At the time they were not GOOD. Ken U
     
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    Dad told us kids that if we got a spanking at school, we'd get double at home.

    Worked for me.

    IMO, some people do change from dishonest ways...many don't.

    milt
     
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    Some of the biggest crooks I've ever seen work out of a church.

    Wayne
     
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    Steve, back in 1987 I went to the local Greek church and bought a raffle ticket to win the car ( a new park avenue Buick) they pulled all 300 tickets out and the last one was a winner ( me) I had to bare all kinds of comments from folks who said it was rigged and even one friend who said he talked me into the $100 tickets so I should sell the car and split with him? I thnk it goes with the territory so maybe your raffle was legit? There will be some a** holes who will say the kid who won the $100,000 at the Grand cheated too. Can people change?? Maybe, maybe not
     
  18. sliverbulletexpress

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    It's probably just me but with the subject line

    "Subject: A childhood friend who never changed!

    It sure sounds like Senior made up his mind without giving the man a chance to have changed. Senior judged him crooked and didn't bother to let any facts change his opinion. His cousin or whatever had just as good a chance to win as anyone.
     
  19. senior smoke

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    sliverbulletexpress:
    This was my original response to what you are bringing up.

    "On the title of my thread, I was intended to end my sentence with a question mark. I wonder if I had one of those Freudian slip's"?

    Steve
     
  20. ColtM1911A1

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    Steve:

    In your 'heart-of-hearts' you probably already know the answer. Follow your intuition -- it's probably right....
     
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