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9000E vs Spolar Gold

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by timb99, Nov 25, 2010.

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  1. timb99

    timb99 Active Member

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    OK, for the sake of stirring the pot:

    When I come back to the USA in a couple of years, I plan to get an automated reloader.

    I've been using a Hornady 366 for several years, and it has served me well.

    But now I'm looking for something automatic.

    9000E with the Automate for about $1000 retail?

    Or the Spolar Gold Hydraulic for about $3000 retail?

    Or something else???

    Money <i>IS</i> an object, but I'm willing to spring for the expensive machine if I can be convinced its really worth it.

    Opinions welcome!

    Head butts, elbowing, eye gouging, and foot stomping encouraged!
  2. j2jake

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    I use a Mec 9000 with the Automate II, it is faster than the Mec version as it frees the hands to pick up hulls and wads while the machine is cycling. One thing the Mec will do that the spolar will not is resize hulls. Some say that is no problem some say it is. I have friends that have the Spolar and as far as boo boos I think we run about the same. I have 3 9000s and have been trying to wear one out before using the other. I have not been sucessful as yet. I do find the constant pump noise of the Spolar annoying as I do with the Mec hydro pump. I have considered changing but then reality sets in and I purchase reloading supplies and continue reloading. I'm sure you will be haapy with either, for me Mec is the deal. Jake
  3. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Active Member

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    APrice - I have a question. I have a PW P2000 and have never had a wad catch on the wad ram. I replaced one set of fingers in 9 years??? If I was to feel the need to upgrade & buy another loader, it would be a Spolar. The Mec to me is built like a toy
  4. skeeljc

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    Here is another for your consideration.

    [​IMG]

    The Ponsness/Warren 800 Plus with Auto-Drive. Only $1650.

    Jim Skeel P/W Dealer/Distributor
  5. Allen-MX8

    Allen-MX8 TS Member

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    I have loaded 45,900 shells on my MEC 9000G with no problems related to the machine.

    No experience with the auto-mate.

    Allen
  6. njwoodworker

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    Why don't you just add an electric drive to your 366 and keep from stroking.
    PW has a specific model for the 366 that works great. It's on their website with a video. I took that route earlier this year and have loaded about 10K remington hulls with all sorts of primer / wad combinations and no problems. I posted pics here earlier this year that you can find with the search feature.
    Dan Gill
    908-448-6820
  7. j2jake

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    APRICE, has seen and used both, thanks Jake
  8. dverna

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    Look at it as a lifetime investment and the answer will be obvious.

    Either machine will sell easily if you decide to stop reloading. You will "lose" $350 on the MEC and $1000 on the Spolar. So you "premium" is $650 to use the best.

    If you never sell it, the money invested is well spent.

    Also, you can quickly convert the Spolar to other gauges.

    The man with 3 MEC's may be happy - but he may not know any better.

    But really, any machine will produce shells that go bang. For many that is all that is needed. You buy a Spolar for trouble free operation over years of use and 100's of thousands of rounds.

    Don Verna
  9. trinketshooter

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    If price is an option, the MEC would be my choice. You could download the reload calculator from this site to see how many thousand reloads it would take to pay for either brand. Then decide which would be the better option for you. I have four MEC 9000G's(12,20,28, and .410) and have found them to be vertually trouble free. Each unit has payed for itself several times over. I would like to have an Automate for each one. If you are not handy enough to make the simple adjustments required to keep a MEC running smoothly with the various hull/wad/powder combinations, you probably won't fare much better with the mechanical marvel that is Spolar. The folks at MEC are great to deal with if you need parts or assistance with one of their machines. If I had the approximately $4000+ dollars just laying around calling out to me, "spend me, spend me", that it would take to buy the Spolar and all the accessories for the four gauges that I reload, I would probably only do it for the "see what I got" factor. Neil
  10. chipking

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    Buy the Spolar and put it on the P/W Auto-drive electric drive made for it. Best of both worlds!! Best loader bar none and best drive. As a plus no stinking, leaky, over heated, screaming hydraulic unit. Total retail is about $2500 I believe. Choice of hand operated toggle (my favorite) or foot pedal. The Automates that I have used on MEC and P/W were OK but elevate the loader about 6 inches, have a huge footprint on your bench and allow the units to wobble during use because the metal housing is not thick enough or reinforced plus the two button electronics can and will lose it's mind from time to time causing some very interesting side effects. Just sit back and enjoy 60 plus pounds of dancing PW 900 and Automate II that are NOT bolted to the bench.

    My second choice would be the P/W with Auto-drive shown above.

    --- Chip King ---
  11. staynumz

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    While the spolar and PW's look sweet and I am sure operate just as nice as they look. I was wondering if most of you guys are only loading 12ga? And if it would make a difference in your reloader choice if you were reloading sub guage? It sure is nice just pulling a cover off, tilt the primer tray and pick right up where you left off last time.
  12. Calkidd

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    Tim as you can see the opinions vary and will continue to do so. Unlike the one post where he loads 20k-30k rounds per year I cannot see spending that kind of money on a reloader. If money was an object, which it is in your case, I would rather look for a used MEC 9000E or 9000H and then use the extra money on reloading supplies, ore better yet money down on a nice trap gun.

    Honestly, if money is an object why even consider a Spolar? It would make more sense to me to decide between a P/W or MEC rather than a Spolar. Try to look for a used Spolar, you're not going to find one and if you do it will probably have already been sold. Don't get me wrong, there is no reloader like a Spolar, but for the amount of reloading I do it is not worth spending the money.

    Like it has been said why not just opt for the automatic add on for your Hornady?

    Bryan
  13. timb99

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    Didn't know there was an electric drive option for the Hornady 366!?!?!

    Hmmmm
  14. chipking

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    Yep P/W Autodrive great product and with a 366 a very good setup. $800 - $850 I think and what you would end up with IMHO would be superior to the MEC with Automate.

    --- Chip King ---
  15. Didreckson

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    timb99,

    I have loaded on grabber, 9000G (added first gen automate), P/W 800+ (manual, electric and hydraulic) and now Spolar w/hydraulic, I have a pretty good idea on the popular reloaders.

    If $ are any concern at all, get the Mec and enjoy the unit. It will reload a shell that fires just as good as any. If $ are not an issue and you won't miss them, by all means purchase the Spolar, hydraulic and desk they market to me is optional. WW Graingers and McMaster Carr both carry very HD work benches that will get it done.

    Both Mec and Spolar have first class service. My experience with P/W was questionable, but Whiz without exception saves P/W. Without him, you would feel like a man without a home.

    Just my opinion. Mec will turn out a good shell and you will save significant $.
  16. amerrycan

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    For the Money I would much rather use my Dillon SL900. Faster and Dilion has killer suport. But what do I know:)
  17. snowbird trap shooter

    snowbird trap shooter TS Member

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    Do you want the best or the best for the money?
  18. amerrycan

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    IMOP Dillon gives you both!
  19. oleolliedawg

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    Send all those $600 Spolars my way!!
  20. perga1

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    The first time saw a Spolar I thought someone saw a P-w and made some changes. painted it Gold and added $1,000K for snob factor. I have since had many Spolar owners tell me how great they are but I don't see the added value over the new P-W 800+. JRM
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